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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 63 points 6 days ago (19 children)
[–] g1ya777@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Sadly there's no alternative.

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[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 6 days ago (2 children)

When do they stop selling user data? Next patch?

[–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Spacebar doesn't even do voice calls does it? Let alone screen share

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

they say they dont sell any user data, although i have my doubts about that

[–] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't really matter if they do or don't. What matters is that they can change their TOS at any time, they keep an archive of all historical data, and you will have pretty much no recourse no matter what they decide to do with it in the future.

Who knows what will happen to Discord in five or ten years?

They might get bought by a narcissistic billionaire.

They might sell all their data to Google for training AI.

They might go bankrupt and sell off their assets to the highest bidder.

They might have an IPO and begin the usual value extraction at the expense of their users.

I know, I know...crazy ideas, right? When has anything like that ever happened?!

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i think you're totally right, i just dont like people saying theyre doing it right now.

Frankly i think we should use matrix instead, but it just isnt good enough yet

Yeah, Matrix is a very, very hard sell. I mean, "normal" people (for lack of a better term) are put off by Mastodon, and Matrix is a hundred times more complicated to join. I'm also not sure what it would look like to use Matrix the way I use Discord. Perhaps there is functionality in Element/Matrix I have never explored since I use it more for messaging and group chat, not for communities with multiple channels like IRC/Discord/Slack.

In any case, Discord is too entrenched to be replaced by something that is merely technically superior, or even more user-friendly. Realistically, you can't migrate entire communities if they're bigger than a tight-knit IRL friend group, and even that is hard. That seems to be the only reason X still exists.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

all of this is true with literally any company.

Almost, yeah. Certainly the big corps.

This is why I strongly favor services that use end-to-end encryption or do not store history in the first place.

There are not many times when I've needed to search back through history on a Discord server, and every time I have I thought to myself "this would be much better on any platform besides Discord". Discord would, IMHO, be a better product if they did not retain history forever.

Ditto for Slack. Slack has the additional gall to limit access to that data unless you pay for a premium plan, despite the fact that they keep the data forever regardless (as evidenced by their occasional free trials which magically bring all history back, and some search tricks you can use to access old posts regardless).

Both Slack and Discord have lulled their user base into a false sense of privacy. Nothing you post there should be considered private.

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[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

Took them long enough

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But still doesn't accept my legitimate phone number, which is mandatory now.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Only in servers that enabled that verification. Its a server setting

[–] sntx@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sent by me:

Dear Discord Privacy Team!

I'm writing to you to inform you that your platform (mobile, desktop, browser) can enforce the user to verify their account with a phone number, after the user has changed their E-Mail adress. This is a serios privacy problem! I'd like you to verify that you don't intend on providing other (more privacy friendly) means of account verification apart from providing the phone number. I suddenly cannot use my Discord account due to this and I object to providing a phone number.

Kind regards, ~sntx

Their answer:

Discord Privacy Team (Discord Support)

Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, we aren't able to assist you here. This channel is reserved for privacy questions and requests.

It looks like this is a question for our Customer Support team. We recommend that you resubmit your request and choose the appropriate reporting option. You can do so here: [...].

In the meantime you can check out our Help Center for more info on everything Discord.

We appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely, Discord Privacy Team

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But its a server setting to need phone verification. Im on a ton of servers and never provided them my phone number. One server changed access rights manually for my username because i refused to give discord my phone number when they enabled the verification requirement haha.
Also, their response is terrible haha

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been screen sharing from discord on hyprland for months, it wasn't already working?

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Last I checked I could only share specific windows, not the whole screen. Later there was also an update with a window or screen selection dialogue that didn't work at all, I think. After that I stopped using it on wayland.

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[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

Oh awesome, I’ve been using the webcord version as the others were all shit for screen sharing. Having said that even webcord also has weird sound issue sim hoping are fixed with this.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago

This is past due, I use Vencord.

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Vencord has had it forever. Just a community discord flathub.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Third party discord clients keep letting me down, not updating their electron version and breaking my system updates cause it's marked insecure

Browser version with extensions is the way to go

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[–] EuCaue@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

Finally! =D

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Finally, Tho i dont use the desktop app anymore. (Hint electron)

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