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[–] astrsk@fedia.io 72 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As much as I don’t believe bsky will be any different, and won’t join it myself, the momentum is there. Took a little longer than it should have but the tipping point is here and we should all relish in the bird’s passing.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

The bird died years ago. Now we wait for the death of a letter.

[–] alsu2launda@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think bluesky and twitter will become politically divided and become their respective echo chamber rather than Twitter going out of fashion.

Overall the discourse quality will go down at both places.

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My bet is that Truth Social buys Twitter in an all-share deal, simultaneously enriching Trump and providing liquidity to Musk.

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[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

A lot of people exist on twitter because their favorite celebrity or news cite or company exists on there. The problem is that the lefties and LGBTQ folk create a ton of twitters content and are also a huge majority of those celebrities.

So while I think twitter will become a sort of right wing cesspool, BlueSky will be much different. Especially since BS has the ability to essentially build your own echo chamber on purpose. Which I actually think is fine because some of the echo chambers I’d compare to the instances on here that try to keep people safe and civil like beehaw. But the moment bluesky keeps getting celebs and organizations to make the swap, it’s all over for twitter. There is a critical mass there that will migrate regardless and honestly the echo chamber design means right wing folk would also do well on the platform if they know what they’re doing.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm glad to see Twitter/X collapsing if only to add to Musk's problems, but at the same time just changing the corporate logo over the outhouse doesn't make it smell any better. It's a better place, but I'm sure it's temporary, the same people/bots/trolls will just migrate right along with the rest of them.

[–] fpslem@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This seems fine, so long as the journos remember how to pull up stakes once a platform decays. I hope they learn a lesson about the importance of owning your own audience, follower lists, etc.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

/glances at substack

I hope that too. It would be nice.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago

The difference being that Bluesky has very robust block lists which you can subscribe to to remove these accounts for you.

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[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

People thought the first Trump presidency was a politically divided time, but maybe we're now entering an even more divided time, given that social media is now fragmenting along political lines, more prominently than it did before.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

To call hate speech and harassment "toxicity" downplays both issues.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I rather have a little toxicity than a bunch of overzealous moderators lording over the discourse.

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Hahaha, they're just now noticing? Rich.

And how will Bkuesky be any different? It won't.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago

You're measuring Bluesky with a different measuring stick than they are.

You're measuring it with the "This is decentralized, and therefore not connected to corporate interests, and never can be" stick.

These journalists WORK FOR the corporate interests you left twitter (or maybe never had an account) over. They are measuring the stick by "These current users are just MAGA users in a cult".

As long as Bluesky doesn't start shifting right wing MAGA, it IS different for their purposes. It's just their purposes are not YOUR purposes, and therefore they can still say that it's different, and not have that be a lie. Doesn't mean it'll satisfy you any.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Bluesky has far more robust tools for blocking bad actors. You can subscribe to auto updating block lists which take these people off your feed.

[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] Nima@leminal.space 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the same level of toxicity that I left reddit for seems to be permeating Lemmy, now.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not surprising, considering that A) Lemmy is very similar software and B) a lot of the users are former redditors.

Just having downvotes creates toxicity.

Yeah, like I understand the reason for down votes, bur they are too often abused because the other people don't like your opinion or don't understand your humor

[–] hono4kami@pawb.social 0 points 1 day ago

I know right!!!!??? So disappointing

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[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Maybe the goal is to get Musk to buy Bluesky and start all over again 🤷

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