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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (14 children)

"Journalists flock to yet another proprietary, commercial platform as the last becomes increasingly 'toxic' for reasons unknown."

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 27 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Oh shut up with that.

You act like there's some kind of alternative which there isn't. Mastodon, which I'm sure you were going to mention, absolutely does not count because it's a nightmare to use and they haven't bothered to fix any of its problems.

So there is no viable alternative.

Also because it's so awful to use, no one does use it, and so no one's on the platform. After all, journalists need to go where the viewers are.

There is zero point being smug about your open source platform, if no one uses your open source platform.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

News outlets should be spinning up their own federated social media instances, so that THEY control their own platform, akin to a website, or email addresses.

That solves all of their issues with it.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

this solves all of their issues.

No it doesn't. No software is perfect.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Okay then, hope people won't complain when things go to shit again

Just forever on march towards the inevitable due to convenience

[–] B312@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You do realise people would’ve switched to mastodon if it weren’t so inconvenient? People don’t care about the long term projections of Bluesky. They want Muskless Twitter and they got Muskless Twitter. Simple as that

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just really tired of telling people about the obvious, and every time history keeps repeating

I don't believe it's just convenience, it's as you said, people don't care about the long term. In anything.

A big corporate platform (or whatever else, like, say, oil companies vs climate protesters) will always have more resources, whether it's for development or marketing, so people will always have to be a bit willing to not have full convenience for a better world

If we don't think about the long term, what are we even thinking of instead?

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Social media rises and falls just like any other fad or fashion. It's a never-ending churn, as people (particularly, young people) inevitably crave something novel. There's little use in fighting the cycle, just as there'd be little use in fighting the trendy choices of a teenager.

It's frustrating to watch people en masse continue to make choices that don't make sense. It turns out that a lot of people are much more driven to follow the crowd than to have (let alone stand by) personal principles or rational decisions. Thankfully, we're not obligated to be like that. There's always some sort of counter-culture that bucks the main trends, and honestly? That's where the most interesting people tend to be.

If you feel driven to educate people on the futility of trends, then by all means, go for it. I just know it can be draining, and not everyone is going to be receptive. On the plus side, you sound like a rational person who actually thinks about their decisions - in a world full of followers, that can be pretty powerful.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -3 points 17 hours ago

All of these journalists have a website they can post on already. Their companies site.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

No elon... literally all that matters

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 8 hours ago

Until he also buys Bluesky.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago

Ten years later

"Journalists flock from Bluesky...

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, what’s the alternative? Mastodon culturally could not get its shit together enough to be a viable alternative.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago

Shit, they can do a lemmy or kbin instance, it would fit their format anyways. Post link from their domain, and it gets shared across the network.

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[–] MSids@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How many more times am I going to see this same title before X implodes?

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same for Reddit, still very much alive apparently.

(I'm not going back, I'm happy here)

Yeah, and it's doing really well since it's IPO, basically tripling since IPO and it even rose nearly 6% today. As much as Lemmy wishes it would die, it's just not happening.

I'm still here because I'm stubborn, but Reddit is absolutely a thing.

The same is true for X, though things are looking a bit worse for X than for Reddit right now since a lot of people are leaving. But it'll likely stabilize with the new administration, and I guess we'll see whether it's able to get back to growing.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Can it implode? Leon can just keep burning money to keep it alive. It's going to probably be funded by the government soon anyway.

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