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[–] greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works 165 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The fuck is the point of banning tiktok if the Chinese government already hacked our entire communication network lol

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 119 points 2 weeks ago (35 children)

They aren’t banning it because China can see what you put on it, they’re banning it because China can control what you see from it.

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[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

to suppress video coming from Gaza and Lebanon? just a guess; but I'd imagine that's at least a part of it.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That and labor organizing, environmental awareness, and many other things where the absence helps the rich get wealthier .

It’s also just a blatant theft; there is a lot of money to be made here however it goes down , and that money goes to connected arseholes

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[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because when US politicians advocate for a single, global market, and a single, global internet, it is with the understanding that US firms and allied parties will dominate the space anyway. When that is no longer the case they get about as nervous as the Chinese got when they went and built the Great Firewall and made a clone of every popular western platform. Now that US/Western dominance is seriously challenged, we are seeing more and more signs of protectionism.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Theater.

Cybersec is hard. There are always more holes. China exports a LOT of stuff with holes. We can do little more than stick our fingers in the dyke. This looks like they're doing something.

What they're not going to expect is how much people hate them for taking their entertainment away.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Sign up for https://loops.video — the fediverse alternative

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

"We got rid of the brain cancer. Here, have leukemia instead"

The way I see this is that it's not TikTok that's the issue. It's short form videos.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Short-form vertical video social platforms are here to stay.

We are not going to turn back the clock. I say this as someone who doesn't use TikTok.

The only semi-realistic (and I use this term very casually) option would be some sort of radical, never-seen-before change in our global societal and socioeconomic models. The dynamics of short form video social media will be the least of our concerns in such a scenario.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I doubt there's many here that are even interested in that format.

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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Though they've announced plans to do so, Loops is not yet federated. It's presently still a closed site and not part of the Fediverse.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I am rubbing my nipples in anticipation of the FLOOD of pissed off teenagers who don't know how to human without sharing their dances now.

.........can someone explain the point of overlaying closed captions over the center of the video, but one word at a time fast paced?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm on the spectrum. I can process reading way, WAY faster than I can process someone just audibly speaking to me. That shit's actually helpful. I admit, it doesn't need to be in the center of the video though.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It also shouldn't be one word at a time imo

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[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Actually captions like that can help you read faster. I've seen speed reading training things like that.

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

Ha, eat that China! Now you need to pay millions to American oligarchs for all our user data!

USA!

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (5 children)

ITT: Braindeads defending government censorship of the internet as if Zuckerberg won't immediately replace the void with his own platform or by buying out TikTok in a bid.

Banning one platform would not magically get rid of short attention span and brainrot you fools. Every social media company already copied or utilizes the same techniques as TikTok, which is already a massive platform because they don't spam ban or regulate content as hard as Facebook and YouTube do.

It is insulting that a Chinese run social media platform provides more freedom of speech online than its US competitors.

They're banning it to remove competition, congress does not care about its effects on privacy or health, otherwise they'd have done something about Faceebook, Insta, Twiiter, and YouTube decades ago. They pulled their usual committee shenanigans to pretend to care by calling in CEOs to testify, and then promptly accepting a shitload of lobbying money.

[–] Trantarius@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Absolutely none of this law was ever about privacy or mental health. No one ever claimed it was. The law is banning tiktok because it is based in China. That is the reason given by the law itself. The possibility that meta or Google or some other American company will buy or replace tiktok and operate the same way is not an unintended outcome. It is literally the whole point of the law to get bytedance to sell tiktok to an American company.

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[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Agree on this except I have doubts that this statement is true

It is insulting that a Chinese run social media platform provides more freedom of speech online than its US competitors.

[–] Ostrichgrif@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah tiktok is the reason we have words like unalive, I wouldnt call it freedom of speech just incompetent moderation.

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[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Has anyone actually looked at their network traffic whilst TikTok is running? I've already isolated my partners phone because it's so bad.

I am against blocking shit online but since it's being done against my will at least it's that shit hole.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 67 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Until a flood of TikTok users bankrupt them, anyways.

Not entirely sure how you'd make the economics of hosting endless video files work without great big piles of money and some way to get even more big piles of money on a routine basis :/

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 37 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah, video hosting is notoriously expensive. It's why there's still not a real competitor to YouTube, because nobody else but Google could afford to run the platform at a net loss for the amount of time required to build a profitable user base.

If even a tiny percentage of TikTok's US user base decided to move to Loops, that may be enough traffic to not only completely disable Loops, but would probably impact the rest of the Fediverse at large, too.

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

This week on How to Raise an Entire Generation With an Intimate Knowledge of Counter-Surveillance: Ban Their Favourite Social Media!

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[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago (8 children)

This is only great news if you are Mark Zuckerberg and you want a near-monopoly on social media.

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Short videos are dumb. Are people really that addicted? I have it and go on it sometimes. And by sometimes I mean like 10 minutes per week. The videos are OK at best, but half of them are ads or live weird shit and the search function for relevant topics are trash.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I stay the f away from it. You haven't spent enough time to properly train it. As you watch, it tracks time spent on each video, interactions, passive and active choices and slowly builds a dossier on you.

As you keep going, it occasionally throws adjacent stuff in. It starts tossing you stuff that other people with your likes watch. If there is content on there that you'll appreciate, it will eventually find it. If there is enough, it'll stream it to you non-stop.

They'll find people who share your political alignment and say precisely what you want to hear. If you like brunettes with flowy blouses or redheads who are gym rats, you'll get them. If you like skeptics or preppers, you'll get them.

My wife gets a lot of her news from it, I find probably 1/3 of it to be suspect and 90% of it biased toward what she wants to hear. Nothing there is telling both sides of any story. (to be clear we have the same political/ethical views, but I'm a touch more skeptical about journalism and random influencers, especially popular influencers)

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Don't worry musk will buy it....

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

Honestly, I don't see any downsides to this. Tiktok and Instagram are horrible platforms that are actively hurting, and in some cases killing, young teens. Sure, they did it for propaganda reasons, but that doesn't mean it's not a net positive.

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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Shit site, but not a legal precedent we want to be setting.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Imagine if this was what make kids choose Android over iOS.

.apk goes brrrrr

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Even with APK, it wouldn't work if traffic itself is blocked.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It never had appeal in the first place..

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tell basically all young people that.

You not liking it does not mean it doesn't have appeal.

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