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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 598 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So when does the all out manhunt with every possible available resource deployed to find the killer begin?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 223 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"no evidence of foul play", so a long ways away

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 132 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Of course there wasn’t any evidence. Have they tried looking?

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago

Dude that's not fucking fair.

I wanna see you try to look for evidence with all that bribery and police gang money obscuring your vision and see if you do any better.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Looks like they slipped and shot themselves in the back if the head twice. Classic accidental death." — The cops probably.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Stuff like this happens all the time in Russia. People who live in 1 floor houses falling out of their 14th floor window for no understood reason. Windows are a mystery in Russia.......Oh, this happened in America? Well THAT'S new....

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 23 points 4 days ago (9 children)

You jest but medical examiners/coroners are paid off all the time.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 4 days ago

Whistleblowers are automatically overcome with grief at disappointing the high and mighty Job Creators and shoot themselves in the back of the head twice in despair.

[–] gon@lemm.ee 335 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Oh, I see how it is. They keep killing and killing, but we hit ONE CEO and shit hits the fan. Alright, then.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's all about probabilities.

Truth is proof, and the article contains no details to establish this absolutely. So, we are left with supposition.

This wasn't an isolated man with nothing to live for - while his career in AI was over, he'd left it to pursue a moral agenda. Suicide is not likely until AFTER he testifies and discharged this.

The fact he supposedly had documents and a testimony that could heavily harm a company is enough to make it very likely his death was the cost of doing business - why pay a billion in a court case when you can pay a million for a professional hit?

On the balance of probabilities, it looks more likely to be like foul play. As they say, Epstein didn't kill himself.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago

Exposing billionaires is more fatal than cancer.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 122 points 4 days ago (5 children)

So many whistleblowers ending up dead. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Hundreds of coincidences.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Can't we try and fund our own armed compounds for whistleblowers?

Especially the ones that benefit working class cause like this guy - because AI stealing our data is a threat to all of us.

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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 230 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Two bullets back of the head?

A Boeing suicide...

You know we all love a good laugh about russians falling out from a window but when we will start asking questions why whistle blowers "dying" is a normal occurrence in the US.

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 68 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A Boeing suicide...

A crass nickname for the CIA Prize for Journalism if I ever saw one.

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[–] pmarcilus@discuss.tchncs.de 141 points 4 days ago (1 children)

suicide

Nothing to see here bois. Always remember that US is a free country that is out of authoritarian hands. Nothing to see.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In some countries some people prefer to suicide themselves alone in their rooms without warning. In other countries, they prefer to suicide themselves by shooting themselves multiple times in the back and/or throwing themselves off of multiple storey buildings. Who can say? It's not like countries led by psychopaths who put profit margins above society, including people's lives, would ever kill people to defend their bottom line.

There's two barriers to justice in today's world: The first one is having enough money to hire lawyers. The second one is having enough money to hire bodyguards.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why not establish armed compounds where we the people keep whistleblowers safe?

Some private rancho in Texas with armed guards and lots of cameras?

Clearly gov is failing to protect them.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 days ago

Whistleblowers dying is not unintended...

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It works for the mega-church pastors here...

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[–] designatedhacker@lemm.ee 121 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You gotta set up a dead man's switch (not literal give the evidence to a lawyer or do a deposition or whatever). Do that before you blow the whistle and announce that at the same time.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 142 points 4 days ago

Its crazy how fast you die once you blow that whistle. All out class war on one side.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 3 days ago

Lemme see, suicide from two gunshots to the back of the head?

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 104 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Bill Burr has this take that corporations are the mobsters of yore, they just kneecap or whack people in different ways because the law is on their side now. Until it’s not.

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[–] R3D4CT3D@midwest.social 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

sam altman & his goons, check.

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[–] hono4kami@slrpnk.net 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 49 points 4 days ago

So? He was Poor! Let me know when a RICH PERSON dies and THEN I'll care!

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 49 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Look, I'm not saying it was Skynet, but I'm also not saying it wasn't.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't me but someone here called it

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 48 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was talking to my cousin (journalist) a while ago and she told me how she was supposed to interview a whistleblower for Anaheim PD. I snarkily commented something like, "yeah but let me guess he shot himself twice in the back of the head" and she alarmingly said "...yeah, how did you know?"

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Conservative conspiracy theories: "HA! What idiots!"

Lemmy conspiracy theories: "HA! Told ya!"

Maybe ask some fucking questions?!

after receiving a call asking officers to check on his well-being

Who called and why? This seems extraordinarily important.

“currently, no evidence of foul play.”

OK. Let's see what comes out.

The MO here seems to be pressuring people in to suicide. It's been done. So...? What do we know along those lines?

[–] style99@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

SWAT doesn't need to know who called in order to go full Rambo on random citizens. Rich people pull the strings. They don't believe in accountability.

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[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 days ago (3 children)

they were only 26. fuck sakes.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I know this is off topic and not really that important but i can never stop myself from pointing this out about a commonly misused phrase.

Its not fuck sakes, because a fuck doesn't sake

Its fuck's sake, because the sake belongs to the fuck.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Idk everyone is doing the "he was killed but

The medical examiner’s office determined the manner of death to be suicide and police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

Isn't it possible the guy was troubled and just actually killed himself?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can't see the forest for the trees.

The problem isn't that this guy might have killed himself. The problem is that the death rate of whistleblowers is very high. That makes every individual case much more suspect, and should be held to higher standards of scrutiny. And they aren't. So we complain.

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[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People fall out of Russian windows everyday, no one know why.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

its most certainly possible. but its also possible it was not since billions of dollars are at stake.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Sure, sure. Epstein surely did hang himself.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All just a series of unfortunate coincidences.

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[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I wonder why the...I mean he couldn't find an open window

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