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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/52638736

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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 188 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

DJI voluntarily created its geofencing feature, so it makes a certain degree of sense that the company would get rid of it now that the US government no longer seems to appreciate its help, is blocking some of its drone imports, calls DJI a “Chinese Military Company,” and has started the countdown clock on a de facto import ban.

That sounds exactly like how Trump does business, tit for tat and quid pro quos.. thats also why Zuck is acting out - gonna be a wild 4 years

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 85 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You mispelled depressing. For some reason you spelled it as "wild".

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He also mispelled forever. For some reason he spelled it as "4 years".

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well the next 4 years are part of forever

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Joking about this is part of how it slowly gains acceptance. Let's just not

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 113 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They were about the only hobbyist level drone manufacturer that was doing any sort of geofencing at all. Unsurprising they stopped when none of the other companies saw repercussions for not doing it.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago

They're the only hobbyist manufacturer with any scale. If you look at the Dedrone stats it's just entirely the DJI show followed by AUTEL by a mile and then DIY stuff. The DIY drones can be built from anything and can be trivially designed to avoid surveillance so you're not gonna get anywhere with them anyway.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So, just like how pretty much every other drone manufacturers drones already work. Somehow people only give DJI shit over this and develop a curious blind spot about everybody else.

It is trivially easy for anyone with thumbs to kit-build a drone with no regulatory compliance whatsoever, in nearly any size, with absurd range and capabilities, for just a few hundred dollars. Despite that state of affairs having been the case for years, this has mysteriously failed to cause the Earth to fall out of its orbit into the sun.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

IDK, most of the kits require soldering (because the industry is fundamentally braindead) and if you go look at the various online communities, you'll quickly see that this is one hell of a filter.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm scared of the magic cancer smoke

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Just get the lead free solder and no clean flux, it's much less cancer

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh 100% magic. And SMT hot air soldering is voodoo magic

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Yeah lead free solder is perfectly fine.

Where I live, lead solder is even illegal to sell and buy unless you have a permit which is impossible to get for individuals

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting, I haven't heard about that.

For systems that...may experience some degree of vacuum...it's common to use lead solder still because it doesn't tin whisker so unfortunately it's still around for some of the stuff I've worked on.

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[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

We were taught that at high school....

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I kinda hate this. What I'd really like is the option to turn it on or off. I live near an airport airspace boundary and it's nice to have that wall keeping me from straying into airspace I'm not authorized for, but at the same time, sometimes the drone freezes and won't come back, so it'd be great to be able to get full control back temporarily.

Their reasoning is to give responsibility back to the pilot. A responsible pilot might want that guard rail. Having it as an option only makes sense.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

DJI probably wants to avoid lawsuits. I can imagine anyone caught flying in these zones can blame their software.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, and doesn't want to pay people to maintain that feature. It makes sense for them. Still, that feature and their maps were awesome. I hope they don't stop updating their maps that show the boundaries because IMHo they're better than anything else, though I think they may not meet FAA requirements. All the FAA maps I've seen look so primitive and have seemingly contradictory information.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

At the same time, I do other this to simply blocking all flight near airports.

Years ago I got clearance to fly for an event near an airport but the fucking drone refused to fly.

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know, they've been dropping a lot of ordinance with cobbled together drones in Ukraine. Just sayin, for no reason in particular reason.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg will be sitting together at Trump's inauguration. This also is a comment that I felt like making for no particular reason.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

(╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I heard once that people can make improvised explosive contraptions in their own houses.

I just wanted to share a random unrelated fact.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Smoke alarms contain small quantities of radioactive material. You can also bulk buy smoke alarms on Amazon. You can also buy hazmat suits on Amazon.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of them do, photoelectric ones don't.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This will last exactly as long as it takes somebody to fly a drone into the side of the White House. Not any kind of special drone, just some idiot trying to get a cool shot for their YouTube channel.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We might get a video of the white house's defence systems shooting it down instead.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I've done some work related to the anti drone systems and I assure you even the best of the best is an absolute joke against all but the most naive operator. The ultimate drone defense right now is somewhere between magnum #6 bird and #4 turkey shot :/

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If said work was more than a year ago then it is significantly outdated.

Watch perun's videos covering drone warfare in Ukraine it gives a good overview of what has been tried and its effective.

The us government absolutely can shoot down a couple hundred dollar drone its just a matter of if they need to use a half a million dollar intercepted to do it.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah a fellow perun addict.

Honestly I think he oversold the effectiveness of the systems. The work I did is still ongoing so I'm up to speed on the available systems, though mostly on the RF side. If you watch the stuff coming out of Ukraine the drones aren't really being impeded all that much and if you know how to use ardupilot and selectively enable your data link you can pretty much get away with whatever you want because the US isn't gonna allow anyone to jam GPS right next to multiple major airports. If you want to avoid even relying on GPS there are starting to be mature solutions out there too.

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DJI is about to get banned anyways, so they just don't care anymore

[–] Blue0x@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t see how this could go wrong…

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Replace the plastic blades with sharpened metal ones, and you got yourself an anti-personnel terrorism machine.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So is a riding lawn mower. Or a car. The sun can kill you. As can weak ventilation. You could be bitten by a spider, or poisoned by bad food. An aneurysm could take you any second. Death haunts you every day and night, and there is never a guarantee that you'll wake up any time you rest your eyes.

But sure, drones are the threat.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a weird response to the drone hysteria in New Jersey.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

also as if the drone hysteria was just right wing clownery

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

DJI pilots are either very skilled professionals or inconsiderate wannabe photographers. Freestyle quad pilots rule.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah the FPV community is way better because they actually have to know what they're doing mostly. They're mildly noncompliant but only regarding the regs that shouldn't apply to the size of stuff they fly; RID, registration, and BVLOS don't make sense for airframes lighter than a goose. They tend to avoid other people because they understand the public is wary of drones and they're wary of Karens and untrained cops. They put far more hours on their airframes than any of the other amateur operators but every single time I've been near a drone doing something dangerous, stupid, or annoying it was a DJI.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
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