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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 1 points 50 minutes ago

Microsoft shareholders and regulators (if they still exist in the modern US) might do better to investigate Microsoft leaderships relationship with Altman and why they banked the company on bullshit claims about a product the market does not want. Things are going to get really nasty when the finger pointing starts to get serious. Trillions of dollars are being wasted and the only ones who made money were grifters and NVIDIA.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 hours ago

Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. --FTFY

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 16 points 10 hours ago

Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

When a reader reads someone else’s work that’s called “reading”. But when an AI does it, it’s called “training”.

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.

Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.

Just saying.

[–] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago

Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 28 points 1 day ago

China really did one on our oligarchs haha

Beautiful

These parasites expect me to side with them?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 14 points 1 day ago

Bro... US reaction here is so pathetic...

The behavior is indicative of a bigger issue. They really do think only they are allowed to cheat and steal to win lol

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What’s the game plan if they did?

Trade restrictions?

China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.

Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago
  1. Name the company involved a military asset
  2. Forbid US companies from hosting the models
  3. Pressure foreign companies to not work with them
[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 4 points 9 hours ago

I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”

And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

They didn’t steal it from Smith & Wesson?

[–] FartVentriloquist69@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse

[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s

https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/

Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.

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[–] aaron@lemm.ee 241 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] konomikitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 148 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Surely they'd like some cheese to go with that whine?

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 169 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago

Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 61 points 1 day ago

we stole it fair and square

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 35 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Are they worried that deepsink too stuff written by others, mixed it up, and repackaged it as it's own?

Well, yeah, that's all AI is. An expensive weighted pachinko machine, that uses human made content, and remixes it.

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[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If I stole from the thief, is it really stealing?

  • some Philosopher probably
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Brazil, there's a rhymed saying: "ladrão que rouba ladrão tem 100 anos de perdão", it translates to "a thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of forgiveness"

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s no crime to steal from a thief.

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[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 26 points 1 day ago

So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?

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