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Image description: An image macro with two panels. In the first a bunny labeled “BIDEN” is holding a clipboard while looking up to an older woman labeled “VOTER.” In the second panel, the bunny is saying “would you like to keep Trump out of the white house” and it becomes clear that the clipboard, which is obscured from the vision of the older woman, contains the to-do list for an evil plan

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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I honestly thought critiquing the guy unilaterally funding genocide with taxpayer dollars would be a more popular take on here than the up/downvote ratio is showing.

I fully believe Trump is a bigger threat to democracy being the dumbfuck fascist he is, but I don’t see how I’m supposed to be excited about voting for a guy who’s clearly funded by lobbyists and in turn is paying for the country of Israel to murder innocent Palestinians, amongst other things like ignoring cries for debt relief and socialized medicine and codifying access to abortion

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t see how I’m supposed to be excited about voting for a guy who’s clearly funded by lobbyists and in turn is paying for the country of Israel to murder innocent Palestinians, amongst other things like ignoring cries for debt relief and socialized medicine and codifying access to abortion

Nobody was "excited" about Biden in 2020 and nobody expects you to be excited now. But the alternative is a guy who will do all of those things you listed (he wouldn't ignore calls to codify abortion access, he'd actively support a national ban) plus dismantle democracy in America and hand Ukraine over to Putin. Unfortunately our electoral system is a first past the post system that perpetuates this two party nightmare and our bizarre electoral college gives Trump an extra advantage.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Lol like any democrat went "yay biden". Same thing with Hilary. Both parties are picking turds.

South Park was always right. Douche and Turd Sandwich

#turdsandwhich24

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hold your nose, vote blue, and join a radical militia or shut the fuck up.

You could also join a mutual aid association, or, like, volunteer for actual progressives if you're BORING.

And never, ever miss a primary vote.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you. But it fucking sucks.

How the fuck do we make things better than this?

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Vote in the primaries. Vote for the winner who's least fascist. Yell at them. A lot. Activism in the streets, calling your representative about pending legislation. Donations to organizing groups you agree with There are multiple stages of the process you can get involved with. 1 vote every 4 years is not enough

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago

You have my updoot. I'm a leftist so I live in this Schrodingers Valley where I'm a useless stupid baby who exists only to be laughed at but simultaneously the #1 reason Republicans win.

I'm supposed to vote blue to avoid fascism as the blue pres sidesteps congress to fund fascism and the blue party tells the primary winner to eat a dick then goes to court to tell their voters to eat a dick.

Doesn't sound like the antifascist freedom bastion for voters to me 🤷

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Preach! Biden also nullified the collective action of the union with the most sway in the flow of goods in the United States and forced a contract upon them. He never closed down those immigrant detention centers that were headline news for years under Trump. The two main parties work together, two hands, one with a velvet glove.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That railroad union thing he followed through on and got them what they wanted.

I hadn’t heard about that either, and it was on my list of reasons why I fucking hate him, but that one thing he actually took care of in the aftermath.

Still bypassing Congress to send even more weapons to the Israelis though, so…

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Edit: here is what you are talking about, glad the democratic process of the union on voted on this. https://www.railwayage.com/news/amtrak-ns-ratify-agreements-with-unions/

It doesn't negate the fact that Biden took away their most effective collective bargaining tool, a strike. It makes their ability to go to the bargaining table for what they want a lot harder. There is still a lot they did not get in this contract.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The entirety of the Biden campaign seems to hinge on the hope that more people dislike whoever the Republican candidate is. Considering that Biden has higher disapproval numbers than Trump ever had (https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1231a2IntotheElection-.pdf). The bigger question honestly is why anyone accepts this, literally any Generic Republican could beat Biden and any Generic Democrat could beat Trump (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/biden-trump-both-underperform-generic-opponents-poll-finds-rcna126098). This is where I expect to lose people, but at least Trump is being forced on us by the citizens (look at Iowa), Biden is literally being forced by what could be classified as the establishment, the same people who took Bernie from us. The worst part for me honestly is knowing that I get looked at as crazy for being willing to endorse anybody but these two, like if you don’t pick between the geriatric men who both have histories of being racist sexist creeps (you can argue one was worse, but still doesn’t change history) you are the one who is insane.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

I agree and I have to think it’s because (white) (straight) (hetero) (cis) (male) (old enough to die before “death by climate” overtakes “death by natural causes” in volume) people are comfortable with the establishment since it keeps the environment where they live relatively static and doesn’t change their lives too much.

Biden stands for the people who pay him to keep things as they are right now (which fucking sucks) and Trump stands for the people who want a theocracy with Trump as the theocrat.

Both options are fucking awful

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

American politics are stupid.

[–] Titan@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Signs of an abusive relationship

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago
[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Do want the guy using our taxes to bomb Muslims back to the stone age or the guy who will use our taxes to bomb Muslims back to the stone age and dismantle the government.

Make your choice, kids!

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Scolding Democrats and those left of center for being incredibly unhappy with Biden's record is not my idea of democracy. Holding to the notion that Biden is less bad than Trump is not an ethical or constructive stance. It might be true in contexts, but it invalidates materialist concerns, chills functional platform changes, negates potential new candidate selections, and stunts policy shifts to the left. This is this year's "electability" nonsense all over again. We move right through this type of political posturing.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The game is rigged. First past the post forces this kind of devil's bargain, and if we ran an America simulation a thousand times you'd get bored of seeing it. Additionally, neither party's leaders will ever have any motive to accept an alternative voting system at the national level. Unless you're advocating accelerationism (itself a deeply unethical route), it makes sense to keep playing the rigged game for now while we build a dialogue about radical reforms.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is accelerationism the belief that 'it has to get a lot worse first in order for it to get better'?

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We move right through this type of political posturing.

No. We move right by continuing to participate in the charade. Which is a feature, not a bug.