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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 62 points 7 hours ago

Any time I'm required to use an app for something that could be a website, I leave the app a one star review.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Even if I was willing to download all of those apps I don't have room for them. They chew up 50-300mb each (why!?) and if I installed all of them I'd run out of memory. Since most phones now don't support memory expansion I have to be picky about which ones I use.

I have THREE separate parking apps because I travel.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 30 points 7 hours ago

also those who dont want to install that spyware shit on their phones. Even if you dont care about the data collection it still consumes battery faster as more and more data is being transferred

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

That is what I noticed. Everything these days require app to get shopping vouchers, book tickets, go in to your local gym, pay in store (we are being weaned off from using cash) etc.

[–] ambitiousslab@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This affects me a lot day to day. I have a phone, but it runs postmarketOS, not iOS or Android. It really shows me the importance of open standards. I feel that every business should be required to support open standards for each of the services they offer.

For me, buying train tickets used to be ok, but is getting harder now. Some train operators are really pushing you to use their app now, and getting rid of the option to download a PDF. It really frustrates me: it's not like it costs them more to offer PDF download - if anything, it's much cheaper to offer that functionality than to build and maintain an app for iOS and Android.

Back when I had an Android phone, I used Monzo, and it was so easy to send money to friends, set up standing orders etc. I wish they offered a proper web interface. Now, I use Natwest's online banking, and it's a real pain - I use the card reader to authenticate, then the website logs me out seemingly every 2 mins of inactivity. Some features, like pre-notifying that you'll be travelling abroad, are only available on the app. I only see this trend continuing.

The concert tickets example in the article is insane to me. I can't think of a use case that is better suited for PDFs, and that's what we've been doing for the last 10+ years without any issues. It really is user hostile and excludes people on the edges of society who don't fit, for whatever reason, with what the 80-90% do.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago

apps allow user tracking and advertising though. Much more valuable to the corpos than a few lost customers.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Cloudalist's and their technofuedalism

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 hours ago
[–] distortwave@lemmy.ml 33 points 9 hours ago

The whole using your phone for everything from grocery shopping to just doing whatever Like getting deals or whatever?, Can it please go away?

They're collecting our data anyways.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 55 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I literally had to switch bank accounts because I couldn't reset my password "on the web" and required me to use Virgin Money's app.

Customer service agent(s) on the phone after prolonged discussions why their app wouldn't work on three Android phones right in front of me surfaced, and I shit you not

Well sir, I have my iPhone here and can login just fine maybe you should buy one of those instead

That day I found out about this

https://www.currentaccountswitch.co.uk/

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 25 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

have you tried stop being poor?!

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Begin by just getting a house already.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 10 points 10 hours ago

So am so tired of people crying about it.

JFC just ask mom and dad for the down payment.... Can't you holdna a steady job?!

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[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 31 points 9 hours ago

It’s also a gigantic information harvesting ploy.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 111 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There should be a warning label on any establishment or product that requires a smartphone to use.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

How about this:

At the apartments I recently moved out of, there were no quarter slots on the washing machines. They were an app that required a bluetooth connection to pay.

So if you lived there and didn't have a smartphone? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to do laundry.

Unless you bothered to check the laundry room when you were looking at the apartment, you wouldn't know. No warnings.

[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

A mobile app requirement is an easy excuse for me to nope the fuck out.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My old apartment had gates that could only be opened with an app. They took out the card reader and made it app only. Should have gotten out of there much earlier than I did.

Yeah, that's a nope from me. I'm trying to eliminate as many apps from my life as I can.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

"Continue reading this on the reddit/instagram/tik tok/blablah app" No, I didn't need to see it that badly.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 44 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

If you don't have a smart phone in the US, even temporally, your almost a second class citizen.

Then if you don't install corporate apps on your phone, there are even more problems for you.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 63 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Scan QR code. Order on your phone. Pay on your phone. Asks for a tip.

So uh, what exactly am I tipping you here for dawg?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

that stuff is nice as an option. There's a bar I go to that I can order my food and drink to the table my friends are at, while I'm walking to the place, and everything just arrives shortly after I sit down. Other people get offended about how fast I get served, it's always amusing. I also enjoy not interacting with the staff, nothing against them, brain just doesn't brain sometimes.

But what if I didn't have a phone? or if I left home without it? 24/7 pocket rectangle is not natural.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Losing your phone now is like losing not just your wallet but simple access to everything.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 47 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (15 children)

I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The funny thing about qr codes for restaurant menus to me, as someone that studied menu design. Is that actual menus are designed specific ways make the restaurant more profit and make it easier for people to find what they want. Whereas qr codes often bring one to a hastily designed list of categories which are not only less intuitive but also less manipulative. So people will end up taking longer to order less profitable dishes.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

Hell yeah, consumer win. I like selecting an item and it offers me changes or addition options that I never would have considered!

But really, it means they can hire less people so they gain profit anyway.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

Even if you did want apps the majority only offer it from 1 of the 2 popular repositories (" stores "). It's a shame they do not have a way to track that lost sale.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

You don't need an app to use a loyalty card...

But yes I am against supermarkets that only provide discounts if you use their loyalty program, which in turn allows them to track your purchases. Especially since many items are priced with the discount as the "fair" price and the full price is really just a money grab.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Same. We have two grocery stores nearby, both with loyalty programs. One requires using the program to get discounts, while the other doesn't (you just miss out on points). Guess which I shop at...

If I need to go to the other one (Kroger family), I'll use my parents' number so they get the points. I go maybe once/year if there's a particularly good deal.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Last time I went to a new-to-me grocery store that I didn't have a loyalty card for, I just used [local area code]-867-5309. Jenny hasn't failed me yet.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago

This kinda shit is why I go to Aldi instead. They give everyone the same low prices. Tesco have their clubcard and seeing how much more they want to charge me for not having one puts me off ever going there on a regular basis.

Also under 18s can't get these loyalty cards here so fuck you I guess you have to pay a load more.

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