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I've feel like I've used Plex forever. I also feel like every couple years I try Jellyfin to see how it's going. Recently I tried it again because of Plex restriction on more than one user.

Well, I just tried it again and it's substantially improved! This time it actually properly detected most of my library!

Also the Android TV app is AWESOME! No more glitches, lagging, and freezing trying to play my stuff like Plex did. It is butter smooth.

Wow! I'm impressed and I just deleted Plex. Good riddance.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 55 minutes ago

Jellyfin is so underrated

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

I would probably be using Jellyfin if it were just me.

The handful of people in my family that use my Plex server though are all non-tech people. When I hear that random smart TV apps aren’t nearly as good, that is what gives me pause.

That, plus the fact that a lifetime Plex pass was a one-time purchase on sale several years ago. It may be a proprietary product instead of FOSS like it should be, but at least they aren’t trying switch me to $1.99/month or some BS like that. But they’re probably smart enough to know they’d really start the Plexodus!

Maybe I should run jellyfin alongside Plex to keep better tabs on it.

[–] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 30 minutes ago

If the apps don't work for you then I'd stick to plex. But I had the opposite experience, especially with the Plex Android TV app, it is so shitty... And the Jellyfin Android TV app is rock solid

[–] Decipher0771@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

It is…..if you use a computer. Their AppleTV app still looks like some random coder’s pet project with random playback issues.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 22 minutes ago

Huh, it works great on my android os Nvidia shield

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The app on my LG TV is acceptable, but does have random problems, like it can't connect over TLS, and it's kinda slow to navigate. But it works, and my kids know how to work it.

[–] drthunder@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I also use it on an LG TV and sometimes it can't run at its normal framerate with subtitles on. I haven't figured out why yet, but it might be embedded files like someone else says in this thread. Other than that it works like a charm.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 54 minutes ago

Yeah, I did have a to transcode a bluray rip, but I think that might be a network limitation rather than a processing one. 1080p transcode worked fine, so it's not resolution.

One of these days I'll DIY a HTPC, but for now, the Jellyfin app works acceptably well.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I genuinely do not understand the issues people are having with Jellyfin subtitles. I just have Bazarr set up to automatically download and they play on every device (web, android, iOS, roku, android TV) with zero issues.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's mostly with embedded subs inside the media files already. Thats where all my subs are so I'm going to test soon but haven't played anything on jellyfin needing subs in a while

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I now extract all my subs, but for the first 2 years using it I left everything embedded and it always worked normally. Even with some advanced ones like Jujutsu Kaisen and One Pace, which both use stylized ones.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Just tested and with Findroid on my phone, no subtitle options appeared at all, though it had 4 languages embedded. On my roku they showed up but as soon as I picked it it loaded until it said Error During Playback

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I quit streaming services around 4 months ago, determined the exact maximum streaming quality every device I own can handle, used a $60 used office PC from craigslist, admittedly I haven't fully figured out how to get subtitles to work without transcoding, but I just need to sit down and figure it out at some point. I direct stream all of my content from a 10+ yr old PC and it uses less than 5% cpu while watching a 4k movie. I could stream to easily 5-10 PC's and still likely be able to do software maintenance on the PC at the same time. That and with how jellyfin looks like a streaming service, with no transcoding it's better than any streaming service. Nearly every streaming service you use is transcoding on the fly instead of storing 20versions of each video for direct streaming, direct streaming a previously encoded asset will always deliver a higher quality viewing experience.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

In my experience, transcoding with subtitles becomes an issue when the subtitles are burned in to the video. I often get external subtitles from https://www.opensubtitles.org/ and then stick the downloaded SRT file in the same folder as the movie. Make sure it has the exact same file name as the movie so jellyfin will associate the two together. Once I do that, it does not transcode at least for subtitle reasons.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 57 minutes ago

Nearly every streaming service you use is transcoding on the fly instead of storing 20versions of each video

If you're talking about commercial streaming services like Netflix, I highly doubt that. If you're talking about self-hosted services like Plex, then you're absolutely right.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't use it for myself but my experience with Jellyfin is the subtitles UX kind of sucks. It got a lot better on the Android TV app recently (ty to the maintainer!), particularly with improved subtitle support, but because of ExoPlayer it still can't play bitmapped embedded subtitles easily, only .srt subtitles.

The experience on iOS/appletv with Jellyfin/Swiftfin was so bad that I ended up recommending Infuse. Infuse is a great app, but it's not a libre app, which kind of clashes with the rest of Jellyfin in that regard. And, once again, it needs massaging: unless you want to be popped up with a buy Infuse Pro pop-up your video and audio has to be in certain codecs.

As I said, I don't use these things, myself. I don't even have a TV. But every now and again, I will put a file up for some relatives, and I want it to be totally directly playable, because my server is just an old laptop. So I have to spend a lot of manual time making sure the files are juuuuust right. If there comes a day where there's direct playback with embedded PGS or SRT subtitles on all platforms that will be the day the Jellyfin suite of software becomes 10/10 software for me.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Embedded subtitles definitely work, and I've used bitmap ones before, although I generally avoid them so I'm not sure if they consistently work well. Directly playback also does work with those subtitles, so if you had issues it was likely related to codec support.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I can't play around with it anymore because I live a thousand miles away from everyone I support who actually uses Jellyfin. My experience with the Android TV app was embedded SRT subtitle support is now 100% good as of late last year, but embedded PGS trips things up so much that I cannot use them.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Fair enough, not saying you should bother with it, just surprised to hear it happening.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I still maintain that Emby is better than Jellyfin. I try it again maybe once a year and every time I end up back on Emby. It just runs better, works pretty flawlessly and doesn't lose my libraries every so often. Music playback is better by far on Emby and that's my main usecase.

Hardware decoding would be nice, but I don't have a system I could use this on for either and I've not had trouble without it.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What do you mean library losses. I've been using jellyfin twoish years now and have never had this happen.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 56 minutes ago

Same. The only issue I've had is it not finding my TV shows, but once I figured out how it wants them stored, no issues whatsoever.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

The applications aren't that good. That's the only thing keeping me from switching completely. Subtitles, aspect ratio, audio track selection just don't work as expected. In some cases I can only pick the aspect ratio and no subs and sometimes the other way around? Also if I have no subs for a movie, I can't search for them on the fly - good feature of plex. As it stands, jellyfin video player is not up to my standards and I can't switch yet. I use it for porn though. That works fine.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I've been using plex for several years and setup jellyfin a few months ago to tinker with it. Playing videos works fine for me locally but I have some family out of state who have access and jellyfin doesn't have a solution for that outside of me publicly sharing the URL and managing the passwords. Also a pain point for me is having multiple files of different quality for the same movie/episode, it always shows as two episodes that it will play back to back and seems to require a lot of manual work per show/movie to get it tracked as 1 piece of media with 2 files to choose from. Would love to ditch Plex eventually but for me and my family it just works without issue and they can manage their own remote login.

[–] coffeetastesbadlikecoffee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I use jellyfin for every device except for my android TV. I really like it and prefer it over Plex, but it was working fine until it suddenly stopped working a few months ago. I tried updating the app, the jellyfin container, reinstalling the app and clearing data and redoing my jellyfin instance entirely. Nothing worked, everytime I try to connect to the server via the android TV i just got an error unable to connect... and the rest is cut off. Regular android app works, idk what the problem is but it has to be client side, so I just gave up and now have plex running alongside just for the TV.

If anyone has had this Problem before I would love suggestions!

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 56 minutes ago

My guess would be internal networking issue preventing the two from talking

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