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[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

In their defense, games starting from 2016 kinda stopped having any actually meaningful graphical upgrades.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

I’m not sure it’s about graphics. Fortnight was never king of graphics mountain. Its probably favored games in the consciousness. But i think millennials still apart of the Minecraft era

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

My take from this meme is that Zoomers and later are more "captured" by a few big platforms than previous ones.

And perhaps earlier ones, too.

Like, my aunts and relatives are trapped on Facebook sharing Trumpy memes. Kids younger than me seems to be really into ultra-short videos or mobile-ish games. The only people I know that know how to use a desktop PC, beyond the bare minimum for work are… about my age? Other than a senior dev.

This is a huge generalization and small sample, but still. I'm not worried about other generations doing things I don’t like (that’s always true, and a good thing), I’m worried about them being more trapped.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

My take from this meme is that Zoomers and later are more “captured” by a few big platforms than previous ones.

Steam games have been around for a lot longer than 10 years. So has Nintendo. There's no reason a Zoomer wouldn't have played Stardew Valley or Undertale or Mario Odyssey or Wii Tennis.

Like, my aunts and relatives are trapped on Facebook sharing Trumpy memes. Kids younger than me seems to be really into ultra-short videos or mobile-ish games. The only people I know that know how to use a desktop PC, beyond the bare minimum for work are… about my age?

I keep seeing this complaint. I'll never understand it. I definitely know family that have mired themselves in Facebook memes. But its silly to pretend my Blessed Lemmy-4chan-channel is materially better than their Barbaric Facebook-4chan-channel. Honestly, just amazed they finally came around on computers at all. So many of my parent's generation couldn't even check email twenty years ago.

Similarly, the Office Space Millennials seem to have completely forgotten that their non-technical peers exist. Like they've never met an auto mechanic or a plumber or a doctor their age who has struggled with using a computer. I used to do IT for a physicians clinic and it was the Medical Assistants doing all the office work. The RNs and MDs couldn't do shit. Which was ironic, because so much of the IT upgrade was about reducing staff size... but the MAs were the ones who grasped the tech the fastest while the actual medical staff avoided tech like the plague.

And sure, kids half your age don't know DOS commands because they don't use DOS. But there's no shortage of Zoomer/GenA computer geeks. I ran into a gaggle of robotics club Alphas in downtown, near the local convention center, just last week. Every year my office fills up with interns who built their own PCs and threw up their own home PLEX servers for their parents who are my age.

Some of you are just so damned cloistered, insisting the three 14 year olds you know aren't doing Angelina Jolie shit from Hackers in their basements before they're even old enough to drive. But pull down your reading glasses, squint a bit, and you'll see plenty of tech savvy folks younger than you.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

I started with Atari 2600 on a black and white TV. PS2 is the newest console I have. I'm still buying and playing PS2 games. Haven't seen a need to go any further (other than a couple games I'd like to play.)

[–] Downpour@programming.dev 14 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Real boomer energy. While graphics improvement flattened out, other things (that are more important) have continued improving.

Off the top of my head.. Zoomers got: Disco Elysium, The Outer Wilds, Undertale, and a million other indies.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

You missed the entire point of the post

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 hours ago

I mean, millennials also got those

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

2 of those examples are 6 years old, and the other is turning 10 soon

[–] Laser@feddit.org 17 points 9 hours ago

Most of these titles don't have mainstream appeal though. The example is true for the majority of players.

I do love me some indie games (probably 95% of what I play atm are Noita and Balatro) but I'll admit it was really cool as a child / teenager / young adult to see the improvements over time.

[–] Jc6666@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Minecraft for me lol, from age 9 to 20 (zoomer)

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 6 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

this is just a millenial version of a boomer meme. you guys are really shaping up to become what you hated. complaining about kids these days not enjoying the same shit you did when you were a kid. what next, you gonna complain about how gen alpha are destroying the economy because they're not buying avocados or something?

stop the inter-generational fighting, honestly, it's cringe and a huge distraction from the fact that the rich fucks in charge are looting us for all we're worth. let's fight them, instead of eachother

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

How did you take this personally? I saw it as a criticism of the industry

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 hours ago

Hey dingus, it's not complaining about you, it's about being sad for you that you'll never experience that level of innovation since companies are all "minecraft fortnite skyrim again" and nothing else.

[–] aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 hours ago

Problem with your generation is that you get offended by anything. You just proved that point. This meme was just to understand the massive graphical improvement that has been going on through the years.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

How are you so triggered by this? Holy fuck chill

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago

Zoomers will do this in 40 years too. Same as it ever was.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 22 points 8 hours ago

complaining about kids these days not enjoying the same shit you did when you were a kid

I have 0 idea how you could have read that from the image. It's about the seemingly exponential improvement in graphics or just how fast things were changing in gaming.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 hours ago
[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

you guys are really shaping up to become what you hated.

stop the inter-generational fighting, honestly, it's cringe

Yeah I agree on the cringe part

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

stop the inter-generational fighting, honestly, it’s cringe and a huge distraction from the fact that the rich fucks in charge are looting us for all we’re worth

Bro, take a deep breath, that is just a meme. People can be nostalgic sometimes, there is nothing wrong with that.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I Love resident evil 4. Great game.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Awesome game.

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

VR actually went through this from 2014-2024 or so. the original Oculus DK had such chonky pixels, very rudimentary tracking, game integration sucked, no hand controls. it rapidly got better to the point where playing Riven is like straight up being teleported into the world..

..except for like, being able to run around or touch things. so it's stayed niche.

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Not as widespread as the systems shown above though. Older VR games and even VR in general is pretty niche.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

What's the status of VR right now? Any major advancement? I know oculus got bought by Facebook, so no way in hell I'd ever get that.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 5 hours ago

I have to think it'll stay an arcade and power user thing indefinitely. The full experience needs large, clear section of your house, and housing is getting more expensive. Break down your costs per sq ft and see that you're paying an awful lot for it.

Games like Beat Saber don't have to move around too much, but the experience will always be limited if games have to keep the player in one spot and can't use room scale. That said, Beat Saber can be pretty decent cardio workout if you put effort into swinging your arms (as opposed to lazily flicking your wrists around). Sweat buildup on the headset can be an issue, though. Keep some alcohol wipes around.

Racing/airplane sim stuff is one of the best uses. People who are into that are willing to drop a lot of money.

[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

Strong rumors of Valve's new VR launching this year. Quite excited for that. Otherwise, the status (in my opinion) is stagnant. I still have fun occasionally getting into VR though.

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

regrettably, Meta is the state of the art for VR. the Meta Quest 3 is stunningly crisp for the price point. it's almost retina-scale with the pixels, the head/spatial tracking is extremely accurate and doesn't require any base station or wired attachment, and you can fluidly stream VR games from your PC wirelessly at 1080p and like 120fps with nearly no latency or reality sickness.

I played Myst and Riven while I was sick with COVID last year, and it was one of the top five visual experiences of my lifetime (along with seeing the Grand Canyon and taking psychedelics.)

Meta has also recently finally cracked the holy grail of non-chonky AR glasses with full FoV, though the gallium nitride waveguide process is quite expensive and yields are too poor for them to sell it. but they look like slightly nerdy glasses that let you see holograms superimposed on your vision, even outdoors in the light.

unfortunately, VR is still anti-social and there's not much content there, and the company leading the way is awful. but even just for Riven alone it was worth it to me.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah hopefully other companies will advance becuase there is no way I'm giving my money to that shit company

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 5 hours ago

Valve Index is still a damn good headset if you want to jump in. They leapfrogged everyone else and had the best one for a few years. Even if it's been surpassed now, it doesn't have the corporate issues that the others do.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Gen X version:

Year 1: Pong

Year 5: PacMan

Year 10: Super Mario Brothers

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We got lied to so hard on cover art, it took decades to believe anything.

Adventure: Cover.

Adventure: Reality.

This site shows some top lies, and shows that Activision, didn't lie so much.

[–] Cyclist@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Don't you dare knock Adventure!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

Shit like this made me think we would hit singularity around now,

Oh boy, was I naive

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah holy shit, we really went through eras playing games, theyve pretty much only ever known fortnite, like modern 18 year olds

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Nah, zoomers went through the whole indie horror game gauntlet, Minecraft, terraria, etc.

Edit Addendum: Also, don't forget about games like Friday Night Funkin and the plethora of mods that it spawned. The Five Nights at Freddy's fandom was basically a cult at some point and still memed. Cuphead was a big enough phenomenon to get it's own animated series. Stardew Valley is another game that will doubtless have influence beyond it's years. Motherfucking Undertale, sans memes, etc. VA-11 HALL-A was pretty popular for a while too. Don't forget about Among Us. Lethal Company is still getting updates. SCP Secret Laboratory is another one people forget about, but is still a game with a dedicated player base. Kenshi...oh man great game released in 2018. Fucking Persona 5 and Metaphor ReFantaszio, great games. MiSide is a new game, a horror game that doubtless has a small yet dedicated following. No Man's Sky is great, especially after they fixed it. Many Gen-Z doubtless remember Subnautica. Ultrakill is something that is quite special.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

I mean, they've decided to stick with fortnite, roblox, minecraft, whatever. But, there have been thousands of great games released that they just chose not to play.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I did 10 yrs of TF2. Better graphics might have come in that time, but I only noticed the phlogastinator.

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