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This is a very low-information announcement here but if this is taken to the extreme, it means that DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and many other so-called "alternative" search engines are going to either have to look for a new provider of results, or die.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wonder what their reason for this is.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 82 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago

Something something money.

AI is just the latest hype train they're hopping in the hopes of making more money.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates?id=492574

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis/pricing

So all tiers are getting discontinued.. Unless there is an unlisted custom tier? It's hard to imagine duckducgo only processing 250 requests per second. But then maybe that is enough and didn't they make their own index anyways? Maybe that was to ease the load

Oh and they suggest using ai instead

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo, Startpage, Qwant, Ecosia... the last two have been working together to make their own index, hopefully it's going to be usable by then.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

I hope so, I don't trust MAGA owned Brave.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

American company though. Not supporting that

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago

Look at you having standards.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate the average user

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

3 searches a day? Most people probably clear that just satisfying idle curiosity while sitting on the damned toilet.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world -1 points 10 months ago

This is why tech communities suck.

Too many shills and useful idiots trying to viral market bullshit.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.

You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not unless you have some way to get me a free lifetime membership, cause I've already made it pretty clear I'm not paying for it, and it wouldn't even let me use it without making an account when I checked it out.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah buddy, i have answers i don't like too. Sucks sometimes.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

It's less that I'm unhappy with the answer and more that I'm confused about why you would give an answer that I've already said I won't use. But if screaming into the void is your jam then you do you.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.

I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.

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[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

That anonymizes Google results. It's Google, all the way down.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You think Microsoft gives you privacy?

They make billions on targeted ad revenue.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

No, I use duckduckgo which is powered by Bing's API. Hence why I said other privacy-focused search engine.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago

Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

Thurott's article on this implies that "big customers like DDG will be unaffected". Though he also says information is scarce.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So..... let's see what we can work with→

  1. Swisscows
  2. Mojeek
  3. Gibiru
  4. PriEco
  5. Wiby

I have no clue TBH, but there needs to be a community-funded initiative to have a (De)Centralized repository of search-indices

[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Swisscows I don't believe has an index, Mojeek does.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I've heard that Swisscows does, although you won't find any 18+ stuff.

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