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This is a very low-information announcement here but if this is taken to the extreme, it means that DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and many other so-called "alternative" search engines are going to either have to look for a new provider of results, or die.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wonder what their reason for this is.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

Something something money.

AI is just the latest hype train they're hopping in the hopes of making more money.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates?id=492574

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis/pricing

So all tiers are getting discontinued.. Unless there is an unlisted custom tier? It's hard to imagine duckducgo only processing 250 requests per second. But then maybe that is enough and didn't they make their own index anyways? Maybe that was to ease the load

Oh and they suggest using ai instead

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo, Startpage, Qwant, Ecosia... the last two have been working together to make their own index, hopefully it's going to be usable by then.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

I hope so, I don't trust MAGA owned Brave.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

American company though. Not supporting that

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 8 points 2 months ago

Look at you having standards.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate the average user

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

3 searches a day? Most people probably clear that just satisfying idle curiosity while sitting on the damned toilet.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world -1 points 2 months ago

This is why tech communities suck.

Too many shills and useful idiots trying to viral market bullshit.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.

You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not unless you have some way to get me a free lifetime membership, cause I've already made it pretty clear I'm not paying for it, and it wouldn't even let me use it without making an account when I checked it out.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah buddy, i have answers i don't like too. Sucks sometimes.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

It's less that I'm unhappy with the answer and more that I'm confused about why you would give an answer that I've already said I won't use. But if screaming into the void is your jam then you do you.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.

I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.

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[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

That anonymizes Google results. It's Google, all the way down.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think Microsoft gives you privacy?

They make billions on targeted ad revenue.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

No, I use duckduckgo which is powered by Bing's API. Hence why I said other privacy-focused search engine.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago

Thurott's article on this implies that "big customers like DDG will be unaffected". Though he also says information is scarce.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So..... let's see what we can work with→

  1. Swisscows
  2. Mojeek
  3. Gibiru
  4. PriEco
  5. Wiby

I have no clue TBH, but there needs to be a community-funded initiative to have a (De)Centralized repository of search-indices

[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Swisscows I don't believe has an index, Mojeek does.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I've heard that Swisscows does, although you won't find any 18+ stuff.

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