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[–] gradual@lemmings.world 19 points 6 days ago

Let this be a lesson to future communities.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Lure them in, pull the rug, harvest profits.

[–] OwOhollyShiitake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually I think this isn't exactly news. The university I go to, which is technically a foundation, had MS365 pulled last year IIRC and sent us all scrambling to find alternatives.

It didn't bother me too much because I had already fully transitioned to LibreOffice, but my classmates were furious because they didn't want to lose the "seamless online editing experience". I told them to either use LibreOffice or move to Google Docs, but they didn't like the idea and most (if not all) of them purchased MS365 subs. I unfortunately had to budge and get one too, because we needed to get some work done ASAP. I can't wait until I graduate (should be soon-ish?) to stop paying for that crap.

But yeah. IIRC they started by reducing the amount of storage the university got, meaning they had to quickly delete data from past classes (fortunately I managed to back up quite a bit), and then one day they suddenly sent everyone an email saying "you don't have access to MS365 anymore lol get fucked"

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The university having M365 and the students having M365 are not the same thing. Students don’t subscribe to M365 Business because they need word or excel. Students would subscribe to M365 Family or Personal, or just buy office outright. Students get a huge discount too.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 6 days ago

What is? M365 Business? M365 Family or Personal? Office suite outright purchase?

[–] OwOhollyShiitake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually not in this particular case, the university had MS365 Business and gave us accounts in order for us to use the service. As soon as MS revoked access, we all lost access

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually not in this particular case, the university had MS365 Business and gave us accounts in order for us to use the service.

Sounds like this university was an absolute shitshow then.

[–] OwOhollyShiitake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 points 6 days ago

So not Microsofts fault then :). Universities should not be using employee licenses for students.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

we used google docs alot during my final years in college, why aare they so resistant, its free. libreoffice i havnt touched yet.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Depending on what you're using it for, the gsuite office alternatives are incredibly feature-sparse. Last I checked, a lot of essential features such as accessibility checking and scripting either have nightmarish implementation, or require third-party addons. It also requires an internet connection and can't save in-progress documents to your local storage.

Honestly the only leg up over the others that I think the GSuite really has is the seamless collaboration features.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 141 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Bootstraps, folks! Microsoft is basically BEGGING you to try Linux, and it's now easier than ever - even easier than installing Windows!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unfortunately the inevitable enshitification of our lives by capitalism will continue, even if we remove it from our lives as much as we are able.

What microsoft does to its products, it also does to our governments and civil liberties, social media does to society and democracy, data brokers do to privacy, zillow does to housing security, wallstreet does to economic mobility and financial regulations, etc, etc, etc.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (22 children)

LibreOffice

And perfectly working software that covers whatever else MS365 offers, e.g. Thunderbird

I'd love for more people to change to Linux, but these are all (also) Windows software.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yeah office isn’t the what orgs care about losing with this change. Business premium was the lowest cost license option available to non-profits that allowed access to identity management using entra.

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[–] Undaunted@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago

And if you need it in a browser, there is Collabora, which exists as a paid business version with support or a free non-support version, that can easily be deployed with Nextcloud. Another alternative would be CryptPad.

If you also need your mails in your browser, there are multiple providers like mailbox.org that offer mail encryption even through the online mail interface.

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wish I had fuck you money. I'd use it to bankroll the development of LibreOffice and all the other alternatives to MS365 and get them integrated. Then I'd start a massive training program to teach people how to use them.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I wish LibreOffice would do what OnlyOffice did and update their interface to something more modern. That, or I wish OnlyOffice would stop being so Russian.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The french government is kinda doing that right now

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[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 34 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Google offers workspace for free to nonprofits, Including device management. No one, I know in nonprofits even fucks with Microsoft because they’re so ridiculous. Now it’ll be even less people.

Google now has the market cornered because they aren’t as greedy.

[–] meh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Google now has the market cornered because they aren’t as greedy.

honestly cant tell if this is satire. my university is currently purging google storage as fast as we can because they altered the licening once we were fully invested. and that was before they started screwing around with licensing language around their Ai. the google mdm is an absolute joke. not even my orgs own google team reccomends it and their jobs depend on google being used. i'd use the vmware nightmare formerly known as airwatch over google mdm.

google is exactly this greedy.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google is so fuckin greedy lmao

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 33 points 1 week ago

Open office, libre office.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Bit of context:

As such, it is generously removing the ten licenses for Microsoft 365 Business Premium that it previously granted to non-profits. The replacement? "We are transitioning to provide up to 300 licenses of Microsoft 365 Business Basic and discounts of up to 75 percent on many Microsoft 365 offers to nonprofits."

One could argue that 300 free licenses of Business basic is better than 10 free licenses of Business Premium, especially if the non-profit has more than 10 employees.

A business premium nonprofit license is $5.50 per user per month, so to get it back for those 10 users it would cost them $660.

Business basic was $1 per user per month with the previous non-profit discount.

This means that any non-profit with 55 employees would be no worse off now, but any with more than 55 employees will be better off with the updated plan and discounts.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Yesterday, I finally talked my parents into canceling MS356 and switching to LibreOffice and Thunderbird.

Now, the excessive subscription fees for MS365 goes to them instead.

If Microsoft keeps this up, I might even manage to persuade them to switch to Linux at some point.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

Thankfully libreoffice

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