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[–] cotlovan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Uninstalling the store would be the biggest feature. A lot of telemetry is tied to it. I tried some of the "debloaters" out there, but the windows Installation breaks after a couple of months (I assume when ms pushes a new major update).

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 38 points 3 days ago

Oh look, with the threat of a big enough fine, you can uninstall those things.

Or at least hide the front ends for them.

[–] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 47 points 3 days ago (24 children)

Linux gives all global users more control: Uninstall Windows, say goodbye to Microsoft

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[–] onion_trial@europe.pub 8 points 2 days ago

I will even uninstall Windows

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine living somewhere where those in charge have even there smallest bit of spine.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Europeans have the Freedom to Uninstall SPYWARE? LoL COMMIES here in America we have TRUE FREEDOM of being FORCE FED SPYWARE with NO Other options!

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 98 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To get pedantic for a second. The title of this post is "Microsoft gives..." as if this was an altruistic act that Microsoft decided to do for some people, when the article states they did it to comply with a law.

A much better title would have been "EU Forces Microsoft to Give Users More Control:" It returns the credit to the people who deserve the credit and clarifies that it wasn't something Microsoft did willingly.

Not pedantic. The specificity, imo, is extremely important here, and the poor phrasing really bothered me, too.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 91 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

In other words: Users of proprietary OS like Windows have so little control over their own devices that it's newsworthy when the vendor allows you to uninstall 2-3 bundled things out of many more. But only in some countries! It's pathetic.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 192 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Gotta LOVE the EU, they're working at a glacial pace but sooner or later (most likely later) it changes the landscape for the better.

If only enshittification would happen slow enough for the EU to catch up to.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 83 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I reeeeally wish they would just embrace and find open source software as a public good and get it over with. The equally glacial pace of adoption of OSS to avoid vendor lock in with MS is not exactly giving the OSS world the boost it deserves.

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[–] double_quack@lemm.ee 31 points 3 days ago

The best control: uninstall Windows.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 83 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Funny what happens when you have a government that actually gives a shit.

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[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 129 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

Since this sublemmy doesn't have any requirement for the title to be the same as the source, can we actually have a correct title: "Microsoft abides to laws in EU and does <...>", or even better "Microsoft is forced under EU law to <...>".

The title makes it appear as if it's out of charity and goodness of their corporate heart. (Fabrication)

[–] ugo@feddit.it 18 points 4 days ago

Seriously. Correct title is “EU gives EU users more control”

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Huh, well ill continue living without all that shit on Linux Mint.

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)

But I thought Edge was so crucial for the system to function it can't be removed? That's what MS told me at least, and I definitely trust them

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

For those curious, if you can get a European Windows product key, you can install the "N" version of Windows. Be warned, it only works with certain product keys....

The standard Windows installer should give the option of "Windows 10" or "Windows 10 N" (or similar). The N version is basically bloatware free out of the box....

The regular version has a bunch of promos pre-installed, like candy crush, and other things that most people couldn't give a shit about....

Recently I've been playing a "fun" game with my work laptop where I'll remove copilot, and a few days later it will appear again. Weeee. In that case, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a policy in place to enable copilot on my works systems.... I'm sure someone who works here, probably higher up the food chain than me, wants it enabled, and the ham fisted policy maker can't create a policy just for those who want it, so everyone gets it because the bosses son Shane decided that he wants to see how much of his work can get done by AI so he can do even less while on the clock.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Companies absolutely HATE copilot. I remember they didn’t even like Siri enabled on the Mac’s where I used to work. No way in hell copilot is getting a pass.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I work for a fairly large company, and we're hearing about "AI" constantly. CoPilot is available and its use encouraged. Also, in the cybersecurity space, AI is fucking everywhere. Vendors won't shut up about their "AI Enabled" products. And the new hotness is "Agentic AI", which is basically automation, but we're going to let AI hallucinations fire off the automated process which could bring production systems down.
Good times are surely coming. /s

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[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Microsoft is grudgingly forced to give...*

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 50 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Please let them also remove all the XBox nonsense. The other day my laptop from work that runs Windows 11 Pro gave a big ass prompt if I didn't want to try XBox Game Pass with the new Doom game. It's basically an ad for games on a Pro machine, ridiculous.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago

You know what is truly ridiculous? It's when I installed Windows N (the version without all that bullshit), but each time I launched a game, it complained that some Xbox app was missing. When I finally said, 'Fuck it, let's install that crap,' I learned that it isn't even possible to install on that Windows edition. Yet they would still show me the error about the missing app nonetheless. Every. Single. Time.

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[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago

🇪🇺the🇪🇺land🇪🇺of🇪🇺the🇪🇺free🇪🇺

[–] vermaterc@lemmy.ml 43 points 4 days ago

I love being in EU

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Perhaps sometime in the future, more people will try Linux and see how good it is. My recommendation based on my own experience:

Want stable, just working. Robust workhorse: Try Debian

Want newest, nicest, good for gaming (need a tiny bit of tinkering if you run Nvidia): Try Fedora

Want easy to install, but a bit older and slower, but requires no tinkering: Try PopOS

Don't like settings, tweaks and fuzz: choose Gnome desktop 😊

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

Make it world wide!

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

how do i europe

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

So I could have a usable machine at work? Good. I am forced to upgrade from win7 to win11 in the lab, and current win11 crap did not appeal to me at all. And it has WSL, so at least it can actually be used for work.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

The home of the brave, and the land of the free.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 23 points 4 days ago (7 children)

This is why when u pirate windows u always pirate the European version. Not that I condone pirating windows that would be immoral and wrong.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

uses Linux to pirate Windows

deletes the iso because it sucks

just because I could!

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

And local (offline) accounts when?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

And again; repeat after me: install Linux already. Just get it over with, demand Linux work stations at work,use Linux for yourself and for the first time ever experience freedom on your computer

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

I feel like this is one of those calls that get so repeatedly people get numbed.

Something along the lines of climate change, economic crisis, etc.

They are all true, but people are passivated.

For real though; GET THE DAMN LINUX. SPIN IT UP IN A VM. TRY THE LIVE VERSION. DUAL BOOT IT WITH WINDOWS. YOU LOSE NOTHING, WINDOWS IS STILL THERE. JUST TRY IT FOR ONCE.

It is painful to see people struggle with things that are easily solved.

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[–] Trylytx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So being able to uninstall apps on your computer is news?

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago

No no, on Windows it is not your computer, it is "This computer". The days of "My computer" are long gone.

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