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I knew they would use that info for targeted advertising
It's Facebook 101, let the users themselves tell you what they like
Repeat after me.... "Enshitification"!
Is it really enshitification if it was shit to begin with?
Years ago before Meta bought it, it was good. So I think it kind of counts.
People are going to use whatever the majority use.
I need to ude WhatsApp when i travel to countries egere it's widely adopted. Just like I need tocuse Facebook if I want to partake in group chats with friends.
They're just too big. How is anything else supposed to take off? Just gradually maybe.
So maybe Signal will get there in a few years? What's itd adoption rate since it was created?
Gradually is the answer. You can dual use both Signal and Whatsapp. Same how you can use Lemmy and Facebook and are not limited to one sociale media app.
WhatsApp getting ads is great news! WhatsApp, and any other meta/facebook/for-profit-social-network will never be a good product. Therefore, the second best alternative is for it to be as bad as possible, so people finally change to worthy alternatives.
What is the alternative here? Don't know, perhaps Signal, though the devs are not welcoming at all. The UI is absolute shit. Looks like UI for old people, huge margins and empty space. My screen fits like 3 chats. A compact theme would take a few hours to create and vastly improve the product, but ya..
Signal? Dude, I don't want nonstop getting updates about the war plans of the Trump administration ;-)
My Signal screen fits 8 chats, and looks simliar to any other messenger I've used. It's a messenger app and the UI shows messages. I wouldn't want it to show anything else.
delta.chat
The enshittify proof alternative!
...Electron inside.
Would signal also work?
I believe it is centralized but it is certainly an alternative to WhatsApp. My understanding is that it’s encrypted and privacy centric.
Yes, encrypted chats packetised over SMTP layer.
Smooth as silk for a year and a half.
Send pics, voicemails, files, videos, and video-chat(via Jitsi integration)
Arcane-chat app does location sharing too.
I've been off of WhatsApp for about 7 years. My only communication options with everyone else are phone calls or Signal, and for those that will not use at least signal, we'll, you can always call me.
I have arcane chat, but only 1 friend of mine from church uses it with me.
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provide free app at a loss
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grow massive user base and market share
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squeeze your userbase for every cent they're worth
Every single time. We got to solve the funding issue some how, I dont want to live in a future run by ads.
It's not very easy to solve the issue of infinite growth in a world with finite resources. The fundamental issue is that it's just not physically possible, but they keep trying. Either we continue this cycle and eventually destroy the planet irreversibly, or we acknowledge that maybe money isn't everything, and that maybe [the vast majority of] people aren't inherently egoitistical monsters, and we move on to different systems.
WhatsApp was not free and already had a massive user base before Facebook bought it.
Hope this will turn people to alternatives.
Wasn’t it like a quid to sign up?
Yeah it was something like that, very low price compared to what SMS were charged for.
This is such great news! More ammo to use when trying to convince friends and family to move away from WhatsApp
I hope Signal does this too!
- no one ever.
I see a lot of people saying it's time to switch to Signal, and I mean I agree in principle, it's my main messaging app, but I don't see how it can scale. It runs off of donations and the only reason it's still functioning is because the users that are there are above averagely passionate about it and willing to donate. If it became the defacto messaging app I fear that there is no way they would be capable of financing that level of traffic.
Do you have WhatsApp?
No Telegram?
I dont have that one, none of the clients seem to work on my phone... Wechat?
Cant verify, SMS doesnt get through. LINE?
lol I dont have a japanese number. Kakaotalk?
No... ...discord?
Sure!
Shit he's 30 seconds from finding out Im a furry.
none of the clients seem to work on my phone
Hm, first time I hear that one to be honest.
When I tried to move my family to Telegram, only 2 managed to successfully install and verify a client.
What on earth are you using instead of phones?