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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am shocked they allowed them in school tbh. They were not allowed at school for millennials. Granted phones were new but all the flip phones and such were not allowed at schools.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Born on Europe on 1985. We never had a ban on phones (later "feature phones"). We couldn't use them in class, same as the game boy, a comic or a Walkman.

Now schools force Chromebooks/ewaste with laughable restrictions.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm absolutely in favor of schools disallowing use of phones in class, but I'm against them being banned. If kids want to use them between classes, that's fine, as long as they don't use them in class.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, my state just enacted a “bell-to-bell” ban on cell phones in schools for my kids. I absolutely support a ban on phones in class (so long as the school is providing necessary tech to educate with) but banning between class just ignores that phones are an important part of how kids socialize and ripping it away cold-turkey can’t be healthy.

Edit: also, I gave my kids phones primarily so they could contact me in an emergency, and I am very much not ok with the state telling me they can’t have the phone in their backpack.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The fact that you used the term we usually use to describe quitting alcohol and cigarettes is probably a good sign that they should be banned.

[–] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 4 points 3 days ago

As a 1998 French Zoomer, they were never allowed in class, and only allowed at recess in high school.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At my middle school, we also banned smartphones throughout the whole building. You were meant to either leave yours at home or put it in your locker when you got there. It's a lot easier to chat with people during the breaks when they're not face-down in their phone screen.

[–] romantired@shibanu.app 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have the iPads and laptops not been collected?

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They were always collected when not in use. We don't get personal devices, we either go to the computer room, where every screen can be seen by the teacher at once a la panopticon, or we get a trolley full of laptops that we hand in at the end of the lesson. You can also BYOD that isn't a smartphone, so long as you don't use it during lesson time when the teacher doesn't permit it.

[–] romantired@shibanu.app 1 points 3 days ago

Thank you, now it's clear. Our phones were taken away, but half the class was staring at their tablets )

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How were they ever allowed?

I was in school from the transition from no mobiles at all to smart phones. If you got caught with one it was whipped off you.

At my school, they only cared if you used it, and you'd be forced to put it away if caught. A lot of my friends had phones, but they weren't allowed to use them in class, and it was treated like any other gadget like a gameboy.

I don't believe in bans (kids can use them between classes), but I also believe kids shouldn't use any devices in class.

[–] romantired@shibanu.app 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago
[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Next they pay attention and learn algebra

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Really? Slippery slope argument?

This is a good thing, take it

[–] zapzap@lemmings.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The "study" is that they asked teachers, "Hey, how's it been going?" and the teachers answered, "I feel like my students are paying attention more now."

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Polling professionals and experts on their opinions is perfectly reasonable to publish as a preliminary study on a subject

[–] zapzap@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

It's a sensible first step.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who better to poll than teachers for this type of study? They are the ones in the trenches and can gauge the results.

You shouldn't poll anyone, instead look at test results. If there is better focus, it'll improve learning outcomes like test scores, graduation rates, and reduces instances of cheating. IMO, if we poll anyone, it should be parents about how much assistance they give their kids (i.e. are they filling in the gaps in their education less?).

It's nice that teachers think kids are paying more attention, but that only matters if kids are learning more.

[–] zapzap@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, like, if you're just gonna ask someone, they'd be the ones to ask.

[–] romantired@shibanu.app 5 points 3 days ago

Wow, no way, I never would have thought )

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 8 points 4 days ago

Who would have thought?