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[–] sixty@sh.itjust.works 1 points 38 minutes ago

It can be boiled down to: avoid anything big corpos are pushing

[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

it’s becoming harder to fully turn off or remove.

They're going to phase out assistant almost completely, migrating features to gemini. Realistically the privacy of assistant was not better, but gemini uses a fully functional LLM and not a huge if-else-switch statement for standard commands.

I think they have the upper hand over AI companies as they own the internet and youtube for training purposes.

But gemini wants to be my friend if I don't stop it, and it's creepy and weird.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I think it's different in the EU

[–] _LordMcNuggets_@feddit.org -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

easy, install graphene instead

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Ah yes, for the whole 5% of people that have a Pixel

[–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ew, this article is an ad for another company. I feel icky when people try to monetize my basic human rights.

Here's a not for profit article alternative: https://oit.utk.edu/security/learning-library/article-archive/privacy-onboard-ai-google-gemini/

[–] imblue@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just dropping some links here:

nobody has to use an operating system made by an advertisement company.

Except for people with locked boot loaders. They really are trapped in some corporate hellscape. That stuff should just be illegal.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

nobody has to use an operating system made by an advertisement company.

My device's bootloader can be unlocked in 5 minutes, yet it's not on any of these lists you shared

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It says to turn it off you open the Gemini app on your Android phone and change some settings. I uninstalled the Gemini app completely. I wonder if it's still running on my account somehow.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My phone won't let me uninstall it. And it shows it's off yet every now and then it rears it's ugly head.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)
  • Install adb on your PC
  • Enable developer options on your phone
  • Enable USB Debugging inside the developer options
  • Connect the phone to the PC using USB
  • Open a console window of your choice
  • Execute adb devices and allow USB debugging for this PC on your phone
  • Execute adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.google.android.apps.gemini
  • Done

You can do that with any app you like, they can all be disabled that way. Beware though: if you disable critical system components (like e.g. your last launcher, keyboard or systemui) you might not have a great time using your phone afterwards.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Alternatively:

  • Install GrapheneOS
  • Never concern yourself with invasive software again

I've never even seen Gemini on my phone.

[–] blobchoice@feddit.uk 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Do I:

  • Run a few commands to disable one app and keep my phone intact

OR

  • Install a whole new OS to avoid one dumb AI app, and the OS only works with Pixel phones (which isn't even my phone as I actively avoid touching anything Google in the first place)...

A tricky decision, indeed.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 45 minutes ago

If it were about one app, and you could do that, I would be inclined to agree. But it's not and you can't. It's about new bullshit constantly being shoved down your throat.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So are we just casually mentioning Graphene in every Android article like Linux is mentioned in every Windows article? How many new phones actually support Graphene?

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

The circlejerk around Graphene is insane, it wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't literally only supported by Pixel phones that have 2% marketshare

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago

isnt it only for pixels.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -4 points 21 hours ago

Pretty much. For all the same reasons. Both of them solve all sorts of problems.

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

None of my work apps nor my banks app are compatible with Graphene. We need legislation at this point.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

graphene cant be installed on just any device. the list is quite small actually.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. If you never install software that is.

A C64 doesn't run invasive software either.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. A GrapheneOS device and a Commodore 64 are basically the same thing.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

GrapheneOS without any invasive apps is really bare-bones and limited, that's what I wanted to say using hyperbole, but I guess figures of speech are too advanced for some people.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I don't have a Gemini app on my phone. The only way to somewhat disable it is through the settings app.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you definitely few apps I want to remove off my phone.

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Use Canta & Shizuku You can uninstall pretty much everything

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This combo even got rid of something that was ADB blocked in Android 14.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it would be great to have a non-ml degoogle comm. but then i'm also not willing to put in the work to moderate right now so maybe i'm a whiny asshole

[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

If nobody whines, people think we are ok with how things are, whining is good, even if we can't do something about it

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

As far as I know, on Pixel phones it’s integrated. Discovered that my work phone (Pixel 6) suddenly has it, I’ve never installed it, and I can’t remove it.

“Turn off”

[–] iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

In Germany we say: "Gemini auf den Sack" and I think it's beautiful.

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it true that newer pixels have RAM dedicated to AI? And even if I turn of Gemini and delete the app I still won't able to use that RAM?

Is it counted within the usual 8-12gigs or is it seperate?

Just trying to find out incase I buy one for graphineOS

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On Pixel 9 stock they mention you can disable AIcore in the settings, so I would assume GrapheneOS is unaffected.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I know is Gemini is not on my graphene pixel 9

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Pixel 7a and Pixel Tablet since yesterday here.