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Internet Archive founder Brewster Kahle said that while the nonprofit organization has always functioned as a library, this new designation makes it easier to work with the other federal depository libraries. That, he said, is a service to everyone.

“ I think there is a great deal of excitement to have an organization such as the Internet Archive, which has physical collections of materials, but is really known mostly for being accessible as part of the internet,” Kahle said. “And helping integrate these materials into things like Wikipedia, so that the whole internet ecosystem gets stronger as digital learners get closer access into the government materials.”

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

I strongly recommend that a whole bunch of people actually look up what the FDLP is before commenting. Trump doesn't "have control" over the Internet Archive.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This means Trump can finally de-fund them

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

No, it doesn't. It's still an independent entity. The right is already slinging around enough misinformation, we don't need to add any of our own.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like a terrible idea given what our federal government has become.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

The Federal government gets no control over the Internet Archive through this designation.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm inclined to consider it a honeypot tbh. Its too damn sus that the US government suddenly likes something like this.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You... know the US government isn't a person, right?

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 35 points 2 days ago

Typically, no. This term, however...

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Well, it's just the one state so far, and it was blessed by a senator that Trump and crew habitually seem to bully, so maybe it's different for now?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

From what I hear as an outsider it‘s a bunch of fucking losers for the most part. Feel free to correct me if I‘m wrong, though.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

Sure, but "bunch" is the operative word here. People in government don't agree with each other, kinda by design.

In this particular case this is a thing any one member of Congress can do unilaterally and a democrat senator from California just decided to do it. That particular fucking loser probably doesn't agree with a bunch of the other fucking losers on a bunch of stuff, including this one.

[–] Novi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago

You hit the nail on the head.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does this mean now they can be ordered to take down content?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

No. They remain independent.

Edit: well, ok, they can, but only in the way that they previously could: through a court order that would affect any library of any kind.

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Guys fast! Save everything that annoys Trump, fast!

[–] nullroot@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't see anything good coming from this

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How so? As far as I can tell all this means is they're added to a list of official places storing public documents. Beyond the slight bragging rights, slightly increased sense of legitimacy in upcoming lawsuits and... I guess the server costs? this seems pretty neutral. I don't even think you need the official designation to actually store the documents in question.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lookup who the current dictator is of the US and you’ll have your answer.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So nothing good can come from this.

Why?

Donald Trump.

How does that follow? Again I ask, you are aware that the US government has more than one person in it, right?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works -2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The Internet archive is important and Trump now has control over it.

There. I simplified it for you.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

He... does not at all. This is barely a ceremonial denomination meaning that they are a designated mirror of official US documentation. This has even less of an impact than their basic clasification as a library, it's unilaterally decided by just the one senator and is mostly PR. They could have stored the same documents without the designation, even.

This is all a search or wikipedia visit away. People really operate on the basis of seeing a headline, not even bothering to click through and just... making up what it means in their heads. We really need to get better at this, it's been decades of Internet and centuries of newspapers.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Look again. Trump has no control over it. The Federal Depository designation basically just means that all official documents go to it for archiving. All Federal Depository libraries remain independent and receive no funding from the Government as a part of their membership in the program.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They can redefine why that membership means at any time.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but that has always been the case. If they're going to do some undemocratic shenanigans, this designation doesn't make it any easier or harder.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

It’s possible I’m wrong about this. I’m just worried. I can’t see anything good coming from tying into the US government in any way right now.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 2 points 18 hours ago

Ah yes. Lets not forget about the other one, felon musk

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

If it wasn't several PB (yes, petabytes) of data I'd want a backup.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DEI and trans people removed, with the latter soon redirecting to a christian psychologist's website about "cluster B abuse" in 3...

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

The Federal government has no direct or indirect control over the libraries in the FDLP.