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[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 30 points 1 day ago

Its as if law makers don't learn from history. Do they not know what happened in the 90s and early 2000s when stores wouldn't sell M rated video games or CDs with mature content labels? We found ways to get around that. We would go to stores that didn't check or care, got our older sibling or friend to buy it for us. We burned copies of our friends CDs, or downloaded stuff off line with Limewire and Napster.

Same shit when there was prohibition in the US. People drove cars across the great lakes to bring alcohol into the US. People brewed there own spirits in bathtubs with radiator coils.

If people want to anomalously watch their favorite weird kinky shit or listing to music they like, they're going to find a way. And, if the easiest way to do that is through piracy, that is what they are going to do.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I mean, fuck Spotify and all that, but this one is really the UK government's doing.

And soon, this shit will come to every country. They're all drafting laws to mandate real age verification for adult content. The UK is just the first to implement it.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, fuck it. At this point we might as well put our passport numbers in the HTTP headers.

Coming to a pop up near you. If they even bother to ask any more.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think there are going to be a whole lot of phishing and blackmail scams in the future, preying on the stupid computer illiterate masses putting in their personal information into fake "age verifiers" to access porn or other adult content.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 22 hours ago

It's a good thing it's so easy to tell them from the "trustworthy" ones...

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Back in the day, Grooveshark was the king before all these subscription guys showed up.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The streaming services are run by shithead C-suites who think last quarter is the way it's always been. They forget the only reason most of us use their services is someone more visionary than them made it more convenient than piracy half a generation ago. Let's remind them there's an alternative.

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what are "spotify fans"? Spotify paid 150k $ for Trump's inauguration party, f them. They do not deserve my money

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I left Spotify for many reasons including this. They've only proven that they do not care about artists at all. I remember before I left, many of the tracks that came up "based on my playlist" were just random AI generated crap.

[–] haloduder@thelemmy.club 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This age-verification bullshit is a fine example of how governments represent their rulers, not their citizens.

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[–] YellowDog@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Considering how much Spotify pays artists per listens, piracy is barely any different in that regard.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago

Wrong

Piracy is 100x more ethical

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I am paying for my account personally, with a card in my name, what more do they need?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They want to scan your face to get as many images of people of stated ages to feed into their facial recognition system. Do not for one moment think it is for anything else.

Edit: it is like how Facebook had a 10 years ago you looked like this! Post a new comparison photo today!' Specifically because they want to know how people age for their AI shit.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago

Well sure, the real reason is always data harvesting.

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[–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I have never in my entire life paid for a streaming service. I didn't stop pirating when Netflix was the only game in town and cost $8 / month. I didn't pay for streaming even when every normie started getting internet access and "everyone was doing it". Even during the high point of my life where I was not only gainfully employed but also able to accumulate savings I STILL never had a streaming service. You could count the self hosting spotify clone I made as a "streaming service" but I'm not paying extra money or probably supporting people with different ideological beliefs than me in order to use it so that really doesn't count.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Spotify fans?

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

tf is spotify "fans"? more like spotify "users"

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Ngl, right now I'm endevouring to acquire more music in digital file format rather than streaming right now. Spotify is great, especially when your looking for individual songs that you'll only listen to a handful of times, and for discovering music, but once you lose access to it you're pretty fucked.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 21 hours ago

At this point even the music discovery is being enshitified with AI bands taking up more and more space as low-cost filler.

The last 10 years of the internet are committing seppuku in front of us. Gird your musical loins, friend. We'll need jams in MP3 format in the dystopian hellscape that's rushing to meet us.

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[–] haloduder@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is another step closer to requiring an ID to use the internet at all, which is exactly what the ruling class wants.

Fight back wherever you can.

[–] RedStrider@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (6 children)

what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

"oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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[–] art@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Who could have guessed this very obvious a most expected outcome?! Not Spotify, I guess.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 16 points 1 day ago

Bandcamp, Soulseek, Navidrome, ListenBrainz.

Has been a pretty solid Spotify-replacement stack.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 64 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Seriously, fuck Spotify and anyone else using that error-prone, intrusive, insecure bullshit.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (22 children)

I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never understood Spotifys appeal. Youtube has always been better imo.

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[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm returning to car boot sales to buy cubic meters of CDs.
That, and BandCamp.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 315 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (34 children)

Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much safer now with this shit in place so kids can't watch porn...

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A VPN is a must if you wanna go down this route

Soulseek (and I recommend the Nicotine+ client over the official one) is a fantastic source for all music in all formats, and particularly obscure off-label shit you won't get anywhere else. You'll even have some success finding audiobooks there, although this is very hit-and-miss. I wish audiobook pirates would use it more heavily. It's P2P, like Napster used to be. You'll have to share something or you'll get auto-ignored by most users.

RuTracker is a great non-private/non-ratio-monitoring torrent site for music (does require a free account though). I've never had a single torrent from there that wasn't seemingly seeded by a Godzilla's dick. Obviously it's in Russian, but there's really no difficulty navigating around. The only thing you might struggle with is signing up for an account, but just have your favourite translation tool open in another tab 👍

If you don't mind slow download speeds (from the likes of RapidGator), I enjoy Exystence. It's a blog that shares link to the latest albums and offers both lossy and lossless versions. Nice RSS subscription to have.

If you do find yourself using RapidGator a lot, don't waste money buying a sub directly from them, it's insanely pricey. Instead, get a reseller like Real Debrid, which costs like 10% as much and also covers you for about two-dozen other file hosters. I highly recommend putting as much distance between your credit card and the company as possible, just for safety reasons. Using PaySafeCard is fine, as Real Debrid will never see your details in that case. I don't have any specific reason to be weary of them, I just don't trust random/small/hitherto unheard of companies as a rule.

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[–] gerowen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Buy and store your own music. HDTracks and 7Digital both sell high quality DRM free downloads, or you can just swing by your local Walmart or Dollar Store and grab some CDs to rip.

Or you could go sailing, that's always an option...

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[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Personally I could never get into the whole Spotify and Pandora thing. I want to listen to what I want to listen to and when I want to listen to it, without ridiculous restrictions and rules. YouTube has honestly been the far better choice for music for me.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it's impossible to rebuild it.

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 181 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s

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