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[–] prototact@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago

It's funny cause "ambient, pervasive, multi-modal" are all words used when envisioning the future applications of AI, so you know some marketing smuck glanced over the literature (or probably asked an AI to do so for him) and chose them with little care as to how the new Windows will embody these qualities. I am so tired of salesmen,marketing,word salads and entrepreneurship.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 111 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft really doing everything in their power to make sure I never buy another Windows PC.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I setup a Windows 11 laptop for a friend yesterday, I cannot believe the amount of ads built into the new user experience which are disguised as installation options.

I had to find the tiny, low contrast skip button to avoid signing up for more cloud storage, a Copilot subscription, and an Office365 subscription before I was even able to see the desktop.

The entire left side of the start bar seens to be a news feed which shows ads, opening an Office app requires closing a Copilot ad unless you disable it (individually for every application), it's impossible to create a local user account, it looks like the user folder defaults to their cloud storage so just saving things into your document folder will eventually result in scary "You're almost out of space, buy more here!" ads disguised as system promots, and your bitlocker recovery key is saved in your Microsoft account.

That's just what I noticed in the first 20 minutes.

I'm so glad I ejected from that dumpster fire of an OS.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The next version of Debian won't be more ambient and pervasive. It would be just the same as it is today.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No way! I've updated to Debian 13 two days ago, and I've got two (!) new lockscreen wallpapers, and you can even configure lockscreen to download picture of the day from Flickr or Bing. Also taskbar has rounded corners, which I'm ambivalent about.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

2! = 2
So the exclamation mark is redundant. 😋

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[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I love Windows 11 (the non-copilot+ version) and am positive on AI, but if they pull through with this vision, I WILL switch to Linux once Win11 support ends.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Micro$oft doing this has been the best thing for Linux and MacOS

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

Microsoft does the best viral marketing for Linux.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only word I understand in that sentence, in this context, is "pervasive." And given how Windows has really heen driving users away from Windows recently, I am doubtful that it will be more pervasive than previous Windows.

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."

Ah, so now having my computer spy on me is a feature, gotcha

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

voice as input? lol, can you imagine a busy office with workers all talking at the same time? this is stupid. MS is stupid. I'll stick to Linux thanks.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the interview, Davuluri is asked how AI is going to change the way we interact with computers. Here's what he had to say on the matter:

"I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time ... I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."

Watch out Satya Nadella, this guy's coming for your job as Head of Corporate Bullshit.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"We listened very carefully to everything our customers wanted, and then we cranked out this impossible to use fucking piece of shit" - The Onion (for Sony, but it applies here)

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[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Just got done switching to Bazzite and couldn't be more satisfied. Super similar to Steam Deck. Almost everything on the gaming rig worked right away.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the fuck does ambient even mean in the context of an operating system? Is it going to be floating around in the atmosphere of my flat? Is the next version of windows gaseous? Is it sarin gas?

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[–] mysticmartz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m sureAI will hit Linux one day . A lot of the toolset for building LLM’s works out of the box. I’ve used Linux for years.

I suspect if AI gets to distros your have 3 sorts of people :

  1. Privacy aware and dislike the idea entirely

  2. Those that embrace it but only with open weight open source models.

  3. Those that use any AI models as long as it’s not too invasive .

I’m probably a solid 1.5

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just rename it to Copilot 12 or something, it’s way too confusing having a product not branded as copilot.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Copilot 365 12 for Home and Family, Copilot Edition.

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because we all told Microsoft we desire software that fits these adjectives.

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I think a lot of people are going to struggle getting their head around the idea of voice being a reliable, primary input method when using a PC, but with agentic AI and the ability for the OS to understand user intent and natural language, it's going to feel a lot more natural than you might think.

You're damn right we're going to struggle. I won't believe it is reliable enough to be anything but infuriating until I see it.

I hate all MS Office products for their "smartness" already!

No Word, I chose those words and this spelling very precisely thank you very much. And no PowerPoint, I would like to align these things with actual precision even between your auto-snap guides and kilometer-per-arrow-press positions...

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago

I don't want to speak to my computer. I don't need AI to perform basic tasks. I don't need my computer usage redefined. Fuck off Pavan.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Multi modal"

Will it finally be possible to be productive with more that 3 windows open?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, but it can function as an OS, a spyware library and a targeted advertising vector.

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

Weird, my desktop interface isn't any of those things. Huh.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

"I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time ... I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."

You could fertilize 200 acres with that much bullshit. truly a crime against the English language.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

yay marketing words!

This means you can expect Windows to get, "verbose, invasive, and difficult-to-use"

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think they meant to say "invasive", instead of "pervasive"

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