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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They'll happily burn mountains of profits on that stuff, but not on decent wages or health insurance.

[–] mrductape@eviltoast.org 3 points 59 minutes ago

Wages or health insurance are a very known cost, with a known return. At some point the curve flattens and the return gets less and less for the money you put in. That means there is a sweet spot, but most companies don't even want to invest that much to get to that point.

AI however, is the next new thing. It's gonna be big, huge! There's no telling how much profit there is to be made!

Because nobody has calculated any profits yet. Services seem to run at a loss so far.

However, everybody and their grandmother is into it, so lots of companies feel the pressure to do something with it. They fear they will no longer be relevant if they don't.

And since nobody knows how much money there is to be made, every company is betting that it will be a lot. Where wages and insurance are a known cost/investment with a known return, AI is not, but companies are betting the return will be much bigger.

I'm curious how it will go. Either the bubble bursts or companies slowly start to realise what is happening and shift their focus to the next thing. In the latter case, we may eventually see some AI develop that is useful.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 55 minutes ago

There are not enough 💯 emoji in the world for this post.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I've started using AI on my CTOs request. ChaptGPT business licence. My experience so far: it gives me working results really quick, but the devil lies in the details. It takes so much time fine tuning, debugging and refactoring, that I'm not really faster. The code works, but I would have never implemented it that way, if I had done it myself.

Looking forward for the hype dying, so I can pick up real software engineering again.

[–] avg@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

it makes sense to someone like me who is not a dev but works with coding at times, I don't get the experience to be quick with it.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"Ruh-roh, Raggy!"

It's okay. All the people that you laid off to replace with AI are only going to charge 3x their previous rate to fix your arrogant fuck up so it shouldn't be too bad!

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Computer science degrees being the most unemployed degree right now leads me to believe this will actually suppress wages for some time

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

That was always one of the main goals. They'd rather light a mountain of cash on fire than give anyone a thriving wage

[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago
[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 8 points 5 hours ago

he'll yeah, lose money you fuckers

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 6 points 4 hours ago

Reading the article, the conclusions seem to line up with what I experience. Namely the part where it says that individual users found a productivity boost.

At my company, we have a bunch of AI based tools set up, and it's impressive how much of the time consuming, boring, burnout-inducing gruntwork I can offload to the robots, and instead spend more of my working hours working on things I actually want to work on.

And we also deploy things like AI search for internal knowledge bases. Being able to quickly get the information you need to complete your job, especially if that information is related to sales is definitely good for business, but I'm not even sure how you'd measure that in terms of "profit".

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As expected. Wait until they have to pay copyright royalties for the content they stole to train.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago

I hardly post on any social media besides here and I still feel violated.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 7 hours ago

I hope every CEO and executive dumb enough to invest in AI looses their job with no golden parachute. AI is a grand example of how capitalism is ran by a select few unaccountable people who are not mastermind geniuses but utter dumbfucks.

[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago
[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 hours ago

The comments section of the LinkedIn post I saw about this, has ten times the cope of some of the AI bro posts in here. I had to log out before I accidentally replied to one.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

It is how its done today.

Every semi-big or big corpos gamble their money trying to be the one coming on top and capture the market.

So it is not surprising to see that.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Pets.com all over again

[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago
[–] ushmel@piefed.world 49 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Thank god they have their metaverse investments to fall back on. And their NFTs. And their crypto. What do you mean the tech industry has been nothing but scams for a decade?

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Tech CEOs really should be replaced with AI, since they all behave like the seagulls from Finding Nemo and just follow the trends set out by whatever bs Elon starts

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[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Suppose many of the CEOs are just milking general venture capital. And those CEOs know that it's a bubble and it'll burst, but have a good enough way to predict when it will, thus leaving with profit. I mean, anyway, CEOs are usually not reliant upon company's performance, so no need even to know.

Also suppose that some very good source of free\cheap computation is used for the initial hype - like, a conspiracy theory, a backdoor in most popular TCP/IP realizations making all of the Internet's major routers work as a VM for some limited bytecode for someone who knows about that backdoor and controls two machines, talking to each other via the Internet and directly.

Then the blockchain bubble and the AI bubble would be similar in relying upon such computation (convenient for something slow in latency but endlessly parallel), and those inflating the bubbles and knowing of such a backdoor wouldn't risk anything, and would clear the field of plenty of competition with each iteration, making fortunes via hedge funds. They would spend very little for the initial stage of mining the initial party of bitcoins (what if Satoshi were actually Bill Joy or someone like that, who could have put such a backdoor, in theory), and training the initial stages of superficially impressive LLMs.

And then all this perpetual process of bubble after bubble makes some group of people (narrow enough, if they can keep the secret constituting my conspiracy theory) richer and richer quick enough on the planetary scale to gradually own bigger and bigger percent of the world economy, indirectly, of course, while regularly cleaning the field of clueless normies.

Just a conspiracy theory, don't treat it too seriously. But if, suppose, this were true, it would be both cartoonishly evil and cinematographically epic.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly I think another part is that AI is actually pretty fascinating (or at least easy to make seem fascinating to investors lol) so when company A makes a flashy statement to investors involving AI, company B's investors ask why company B isn't utilizing this amazing new technology. This plays into that aspect of not wanting to get left behind.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes, people grew with subconscious feeling that cautionary tales of the old science fiction are the way to real power. A bit similar to ex-Soviet people being subconsciously attracted to German Nazi symbolism.

Evil is usually shown as strong, and strength is what we need IRL, to make a successful business, to fix a decaying nation, to give a depressed society something to be enthusiastic about.

They think there should be some future, looking, eh, futuristic.

The most futuristic things are those that look and function in a practical way and change people's lives for the better. We've had the brilliance and entertainment of 90s and early 00s computing, then it became worse. So they have to promise something.

BTW, in architecture brutalism is coming back into fashion (in discussions and not in the real construction), perhaps we will see a similar movement for computing at some point - for simplification and egalitarianism.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Why do they keep throwing their money away on it?

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In no small part because they see it as a time-limited gateway to permanent, infinite profits through market consolidation, job cutting, and government contracts. After all, if they get there FIRST, it's all theirs, and the infinite profits then will make up for all the money spent now. Never mind the fact that in doing so they'll destroy the environment, the economy, and the world long before they can actually SPEND those profits on anything.

[–] grahamja@reddthat.com 5 points 5 hours ago

It worked for Google. They corraled a majority of the internet into providing them add revenue. Google maps, Gmail, google search engine, youtube... all just more ways for them to scrape your data and serve you adds. Investors are hedging their bets on what could replace google as the information monopoly of the future.

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

More like most CEOs are fucking dumb. They attach to whatever the tech buzzword is. So AI being a buzzword drew them in, then the AI uses other buzzwords? It's like a moth to the flame.

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