I made sure my last car I bought had no modem in it. This is going to get a lot harder for my next. I will be probably limited to the used vehicles market.
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I’m gonna be honest, I want my car to be an iPad on wheels. 120fps, buttery smooth animations, 3000nit brightness 19” vertical panel with CarPlay Ultra.
However, I’d be totally satisfied with the Slate truck model that has an app on a tablet that hooks directly into the truck. That’d be honestly more ideal.
It's nothing less than a war against property rights.
They are pushing software into cars because they see copyright, and more specifically the DMCA anti-circumvention clause, as an excuse to retain their control over your property after they sell it to you. Rentiership is 100% of their goal, and providing useful functionality is nothing but an afterthought at best.
"Subscriptions" to hardware you already own is entirely FRAUD and executives of companies that engage in it deserve long prison sentences.
John Deere cough cough
we always flip off the John Deere plant as we drive by. Family tradition.
Imagine a car without cellular connectivity
You mean, like the car that I drive currently? It’s pretty tough to picture, honestly.
Archive link to an FAQ for the Slate electric trucklette that claims no sim cards and minimum digital bits. No clue if it will be a good vehicle so don't take this as an endorsement. https://archive.ph/PMKpC
Anyone know other options?
Fucking sim cards in cars. I hate everything.
Yes, and car manufacturers are becoming SaaS vendors
Yes it’s why China was able to leapfrog and become a EV manufacturing giant. They were never able to compete in the traditional ICE vehicle market with the Europeans, Japanese and Americans. Since building an internal combustion engine that complies with the regulation, is fuel efficient and fast is really difficult for them since they lack the century of experience that the other manufacturers have. An electric engine is much less complex and since China has decades of experience building batteries, electronics and software, because they make the smartphones for almost every smartphone brand in the world, they were able to set up shop and catch up to foreign competitors very quickly in the EV market.
The sad thing is 'smartphone on wheels' is a slur.
Smartphones don't have to be soulless and uniform and enshittified and subscription based and completely inaccessible and straight up anti-consumer/designed to fail, but here we are.
I really hope Slate takes off though (and they make a nimble hatchback for their next chassis). It feels like the antithesis of all this.
Some of these comments are the most elitist, contrarian bullshit I've ever heard.
This article is about the positives and negatives of car connectivity, not how cool you are because you choose to ride a bike. You're so cool because instead of choosing to not connect your phone to your car, you bought a rusty 07 Camry?
I'm not the biggest fan of the choices these companies are making either, but if your 1997 Mazda 929 is a personality trait, it's not much different from the ding dong who bought the Ram 3500 to showcase his peanut balls.
Personally I think it is cool to not give money to anti-consumer companies, which I assume all car companies have become by now if they all have computers. Certainly they cannot forever resist the temptation to use the power they have over users when they control the software running on our hardware.
I don't disagree with either of your points. However, I'm not edgy because I refuse to shop at Target. I'm saying these comments are a bit smug.
Cars have been giant ~~smartphones~~ {tracking and data collection gold mines} for years now
aand this is why I won't buy a car made after 2010.
2016 is still a good year as most of the connected tech isn't supported anymore as it's on the 3g network.
IMO cars peaked around 2015
Interiors looked really nice and you had analog dials etc. Wish some small screens, just enough.
Today it's just big plastic dashboard with cheap tablets stuck in them
I don't currently drive since I live in a city with great public transit but if i was forced to get a car it wouldn't be made after 2006. I like buttons and don't want to spend $400 replacing my rear view mirror because its linked to my touch screen for no damn reason
Don't forget the transformation from a 5 buck bulb to a 1000 buck complete LED-system. Yay!
Sadly yes and they’re mainly taking the worst aspects. Normal built in features like heated seats as subscriptions, dropping smartphone integration for their own far inferior dogshit UI and features, and so on.
the automobile has represented freedom
That's a part I never understood.
Cara are fucking expensive, they're literally money drains. Unless you have that much money, you ainns having a car.
In Europe, bot having a car generally nis perfectly fine, you still can go everywhere easily as that place hasn't been turned into a cars-only paradise
In the US, and countries that modelled themselves after it, you're not going anywhere without a car. Public transit it shit at best and in many places completely absent. Want to try a bicycle? Good luck, you gotta mix in with the murder cars.
Cars do not represent freedom, they're the opposite
In Europe, not having a car generally is perfectly fine
In cities.
For those living in the countryside, not really, as distances are huge and public transport is rare (think a single bus that stops at a bus station a km or two away and passes maybe once every 2h) or non-existent.
That said, over 70% of people in Europe live in urban areas.
If the state of open source phones are anything to judge by, we will have open source cars at some point, except the foot brake isn’t working yet, so you’ll have to use the hand brake for now. Cars and phones both take a lot of resources to develop, and maybe you’ll be able to “de-Stellantis” your car at some point instead of going fully open source, but judging by the recent steps Google has taken to weaken de-Googling, I’m not sure how long that would last either.
Ads between gear changes in 3…2…1…
We're not too far detached from that being reality already. There are several car brands that straight up block your entire infotainment system to show their own ads
It looks like you're trying to brake. You've used up this months braking quota. Braking will be enabled again in two weeks. Please enter credit card details to upgrade your subscription to allow unlimited braking*.
*Fair use policy, limitations apply. Braking is not available on all roads. If you're using the brake to often, an additional braking fee might be applied to your credit card for each use. Braking fee and subscriptions do not include mechanical wear, new parts or checks by a mechanic.
They've been. Demand your privacy back
I'm in a BYD, and I actually feel better connected due to the regenerative braking
I'm normally on a motorbike, so I use my gears to control speed almost entirely
With a manual car, I can actually drive it properly, but most of the vehicles I have to drive are automatics, which I have always disliked
With my little car, I feel much more "part of" it. It's very responsive and I'm able to do so much without touching the brakes
I pretty much ignore the "tech" apart from occasionally telling it to change the temperature or do something with a window
or do something with a window
Window, do a barrel roll
That's be pretty sweet!
They go up and down, but I'm hoping that with some patience and treats, I can train it to do more
My radio doesn't even have a screen 😅
The only computer in my car is the radio, and that stays off most of the time. I'm honestly thrilled to not have so much tech in the car. Its nice to be able to fix nearly anything with some pliers, a multi-meter, and an adjustable spanner.