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ARC Raiders Just Became Steam's Most Popular Extraction Shooter and It's Not Even Close (insider-gaming.com)
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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Arc Raiders may be the most exciting PvPvE launch I've had in a long while. A lot of the comments in this thread seem negative, but I would bet money this game is going to be successful for at least the first 6 months. It's just too good right out of the gate.

As for 1 year+, depends on how well the company is at producing new material. I think they have something special with this game. If Hunger comes out, or Marathon (lol), and does something just as compelling I could see Arc having a hard time but I doubt Hunger will eat the same player base and I doubt Marathon will feel very good (they seem like they have too many problems at this point).

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh shit this is tge same devs as the finals? That game was so good and I dont even like fps.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Yes. I've liked how the Finals has been handled and supported for the most part. It's currently my fps of choice at the moment.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Youre probably correct about Hunger. It's fun, but it is slowwwwwwwww and way more "hardcore" compared to ARC Raiders. I'm in their NDA play tests, for what it's worth.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Very jealous, I'm excited for that game. I just hope they nail the fun aspect. Hunt showdown is so much fun but has almost no meta progression and very little customization - hunger seems to have that addressed (or is planning to). Grey zone Warfare is very cool, hardcore, and slow but it's got almost no gameplay considerations; it's like barely a game in the traditional sense and had a terribly short shelf life for me for that reason. That's where I'm curious if Hunger can pull it off - from what I've seen it's too early to say.

Thoughts?

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

I used to love Hunt, but then the meta became too fast for me, I loved taking that game slow and sneaking. Now it's just pick the best guns and run run run.

Grey Zone I have yet to try, but the concensis seems to be let it cook a bit more?

I didn't get to play enough Hunger yet to experience customization, just trying to learn the maps and get new weapons. I didn't even get to try any PvP the maps are so large.

The biggest hurdle they're facing by far is game performance/optimization, so far the game has run terribly! The last play test I capped my FPS to 30, otherwise it was all over the place to the point of giving me motion sickness, so it diminished a lot of desire to play more. And I play a decent amount of VR and never get motion sickness. 5800X3D + 6800 XT and W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC for reference.

I'm trying to walk a fine line of not revealing much outside what can be seen in their trailers since NDA, lol.

The immersion feeling and overall excitement during matches was on point though. It has such a fun and unique setting!

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I hear the game is supposed to be fun so I suppose I should give it a shot. But styling they give the characters and weapons, essentially junk weapons and raiders from Fallout wearing whatever goofy scrap they can find puts me so far off. Like not everything has to be perfectly tacticool but like, something closer to the Metro series would be dope

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone know if Nexon is a concern for this game? I haven't heard much about them recently but their shitty practices from way back then (and continuing) from their older MMOs doesn't inspire confidence.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

From my experience playing the Finals, it seems the developers have quite a good grip on creative freedom and how they monetize (the only exception is the cosmetic battlepass "upgrade" for additional superfluous cosmetics), and there haven't been any elements of P2W that I witnessed.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I've spent 0 money on Finals but have all the Battlepasses over the past 8 seasons. And got extra in game currency to buy more cosmetics without spending money.

And for the gameplay itself which is the most important aspect there is no pay to win.

[–] xenos@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The game was only available to play in limited time play/stress tests. It obviously wouldn't be present in a stress test.

That doesnt mean there is going to be P2W in the released game, but it seems somewhat disingenuous to say that you didn't witness any P2W, since there wasn't an opportunity for it yet.

Based on every other game in the genre, there's usually at least some amount of convenience or power you can buy so I would expect some to be added at some point, maybe not on day 1 of release though.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The finals =/= Arc Raiders (The finals has been released since 2023 and has been actively updated to the present day).

They are developed by the same studio (embark), but Nexon is their parent company now. The reason I left the future ambiguous is because I don't have access to their internal planning.

With that being said, none of the updates or available purchases within The Finals have had P2W or predatory elements for 2 years, so I'm inclined to believe they will stay on the right track.

You can check the FAQ on Nexon's or Embark's websites (official site ran by Embark) about Arc Raiders if you want to see their plans in writing:

Nexon site

Official Embark site (Check bottom of page)

[–] justsquigglez@leminal.space 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can't wait for the news about it inevitably dropping in players. Followed by news of permanent server shutdown within the next 2 years (I'm being extremely generous.)

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (8 children)

God forbid people enjoying their little coop adventures. I will never understand this community’s hate boner for everything online. Just stick to your single player stuff and be happy. Why dig trenches for something that doesn‘t affect you?

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I dont hate coop online games. I hate PvEvP Extraction Looter Shooters.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How many have you played?

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Please note that the genre is PvEvP Extraction Looter Shooters. So some games, like Deep Rock Galactic and Helldivers 2, are missing from the list because they do not fit that category.

I have tried to play (ie, only played a few hours each, not like multiple days):

  • The Cycle Frontier
  • Escape from Tarkov
  • ARC Raiders (the closed beta in June 2023)
  • Dark and Darker
  • Delta Force Hazard Ops
  • Lost Light
  • Marauders
  • Hunt Showdown
  • Gray Zone Warfare
  • Incursion Red River

Games that I tried that don't exactly fit the genre but are close enough I feel like I should include them:

  • Steel Hunters (the closed playtest in March 2023)
  • Sea of Thieves
  • SYNDUALITY: Echo of Ada
  • Dungeon Stalkers

Its not that I haven't given the genre an honest go.

I hate that death means I lose not only the items I picked up, but also the items I brought into a match. The behaviour of players in this particular genre is almost always peak toxic. I am thankful that the genre exists, because it is a sponge taking some of the toxic people from other games. The people that derive fun and pleasure purely from ruining someone else's game experience (like cheating, harassing, etc.) It is not a genre of game I enjoy, because some other players always ruin the fun.

Some games had a PvE mode, which was fine but the loot was limited to be basically useless. I don't understand why they wouldn't just have separated inventories, and perhaps allow transfers of items below a set gear level to keep the PvP economy balanced.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Lemmy's gaming community can honestly be so insufferable, lol. A bunch of gaming boomers upset online games aren't exactly as they were 15+ years ago.

[–] justsquigglez@leminal.space 0 points 6 days ago

Dude, calm down. My point was that there has been like 60 live service games like this that have shut down within the past 5-10 years. Did you see me say anything about the gameplay itself? No, I only mentioned the player base and servers.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To be fair, I told my friends that I thought The Finals would last only 7 months, but it stabilized around a little north of 10k concurrent players, which is probably fewer than the devs were hoping for but enough to keep it going.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I didn't realize it was The Finals people. That alone sells me. What a shockingly fun free game.

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