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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

I'm all for this. Game exclusivity prevents many from enjoying them.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is this sour grapes because they can't get exclusives?

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, exclusives suck. It’s hardware based gatekeeping.

Everything is using basically the same hardware architecture now anyways. There’s no reason for it. They’re all PCs.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

Por que no los dos

I agree with this. I also agree that exclusives need to go, but it is very interesting that team "We tried buying our way into exclusives and then made them shittier at every step" is now crying that "it's because people don't want exclusives anymore"

Which, yeah, but also your exclusives you made absolute shite. Look what you did to my poor Halo. A near perfect gaming experience 15 years ago with one of the most epic sci-fi stories I've played, now to a boring bland corporate ripoff with absolutely no heart. Gears of war the same, a gritty action game based on the survival of humanity to... I don't even remember the last two installments. Them exiting exclusives isn't because they (rightfully) think we're done with exclusives, it's because they trashed their own IP.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

What a weird and aggressive comment. You must be John PlayStation.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nobody can "get" exclusives. They don't exist anymore. There's first-party games - there's games the first party funded into existence - and everything else runs on whatever customers have.

Developers want to sell games... to people. Hardware is an obstacle. They don't want to care which color of deliberately incompatible generic computer you bought. Shipping five near-identical versions of the same damn game is a button they push in Unreal 5, and that's why they put up with Unreal 5.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Spider-Man 2 is one of my favorite games ever. So glad it was no PS exclusive, and that they finally knocked off the PS account shitfuckery.

It's hard to find good news these days so I will hold on to whatever I can get.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, for me GOG and its existence is one of the good news in gaming, so check that out if you didn't yet!

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It would be good news if there were any games on there I actually wanted to buy, or if they supported Proton.

And please don't mention Heroic or Lutris because they barely work either. Steam is the only one that works 100% of the time.

ITT: everyone wants to lie about Heroic and Lutris.

[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Barely" feels a little unfair. But the games that do require tweaking do tend to require doing a fair bit of research. Often rather daunting research.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

It's 50/50 for me

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Over half my library is from GOG and over 95% of my gaming is on Linux. It's as easy as Steam, you click install and play.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It isn't. And you know it isn't.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude, you know you can integrate non-steam games into your steam library to deploy proton/have them in your game selection, right? It's literally two clicks.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude, you know that literally doesn't work either?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Cuphead, Papers Please, Freedom Planet, and Quake 1 and 2 work perfectly with that configuration in steam on both my Debian-based and Arch based linux installations (Games installed to disk using their provided installers and then having their windows executables added to steam with Proton 9).

If you have something esoteric about your setup, explain it here, and we can look at it.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cool, I'm happy for you. I didn't come here to debug my system. I spent many hours trying across various distros on various hardware with no success. I don't care anymore. When GOG decides they want to support Proton, I'll consider supporting them. Until then I just buy and use them on steam and they just work. The end. Thank you.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

please don’t mention Heroic or Lutris because they barely work either

Odd, been enjoying Silksong and earlier Baldur's Gate 3 via Heroic (GOG) and it just works on Linux. Not sure what the 'barely works' part you are talking about is. Hell, half the games I buy are through GOG now. Only one I had to do anything for is Breath of Fire IV, which isn't even offered on Steam...

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not sure what the 'barely works' part you are talking about is.

The part where it barely works. Like maybe 50% of the time. Often enough to not even bother with it and just get my games on Steam where they're always available and always work.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have specific examples of games that didn't work for you?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

I don't keep a log but off the top of my head, Deathloop and Cygni

[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Tried Bottles yet?

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

In a world of garbage and capitalist-corporate exploitation of the masses, we celebrate these.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago

They’re only saying this because they shut down all their first party studios to generate shareholder value and now have nothing in their release schedule for five years.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Software has won.

This was inevitable once ports looked the same and ran the same. Doubling your customer base, without developing the whole game twice? Obvious choice for any third party. First-party developers have taken longer, because their parent companies primarily own them to promote a hardware business. Microsoft's hardware business has become vestigial. It always was, to some extent; the Xbox project was a 1990s scheme to PC-ify the console market. It worked.

Consoles don't exist anymore. Do you want the green AMD laptop, or the blue AMD laptop? Even Nintendo rebadged an Android tablet. You can release some crazy new hardware unlike anything else, but the only third-party games will be multiplatform hits that run like garbage. Like on early PS3. The Helldivers 2 PSN fiasco sure looks like Sony found out how profitable they'd be as just another publisher and the answer scared the shit out of them. Without that service, they don't have a platform, anymore. They sell a popular model of an IBM compatible. Asterisk on the compatible.

Nintendo can get away with that shit forever, because they own Pokemon. I don't know how much longer you can cosplay that sort of first-party importance, on the strength of Horizon and... Death Stranding.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This is just PR talk, they will 100% release exclusives on GamePass when the subscriber numbers reach some sort of critical mass.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Cool as long as I don't have to use GamePass.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Yes bet so are console platforms.

Xbox lost that fight.

I like PlayStation/Sony a bit less... and, in some ways, a bit more. Both companies have pulled a lot of bullshit over the last decade plus and honestly I'm a bit tired of both of them. Not that Nintendo is any better. And I'm not a PCMR guy either, I use Macs. I have Cyberpunk, I have Blue Prince... might just be ageing out of gaming. Never cared for live service games, most DLC, or the super casual, or, on the other end of the spectrum, anything "Soulslike". I guess I just miss when games were simple, fun, and rewarding. And they still can be, but with consoles going up to $700 and games going up to $100, they have to work a lot harder to get there, and I feel like too many of them are falling short.

Exclusives are some bullshit, but I had the right idea years ago and I think it's still true. PlayStation needs their own version of GamePass. Both services get limited to 1080p and no DLC. PlayStation has to allow GamePass and Xbox has to allow the PlayStation version. So one console gets you all the games, but owning a console means you can play games at 4K and have DLC options. Then exclusives are kinda fine because it then boils down to just extras and some flash. Oh, and of course you could buy neither console and subscribe to both streaming platforms and play all the games without the extras. (This was also when GPU was $15 a month. Now it's double that, so the idea is not as good anymore.)

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They're sad they don't have Ghost on Xbox.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm glad about this because I just game on Linux now, and this attitude means they're less likely to sabotage things to specifically fail through Wine/Proton, but as a business, I imagine this only really works if they have good products that are clearly better than their competition, and they just aren't.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If it wont run on linux I don't play it.