Technology

me laughing in de googled phone. my phone as never had had my gmail address typed in it.

Aurora Store, Fdroid etc. Graphene or similar OS. They got greedy - now they get nothing.

Good thing I mostly use F-Droid (because finding anything useful on Google Play is a pain)

Twinsies

Google Pain Services

Not sure if typo or intentional joke

I dont understand... Its describing what android does. How can that be rage bait?

Nobody will rage over any of this. Its common knowledge already. Its the same thing that has been discussed for years.

stock for stock, they are not much better, no.

I'd say that depends on exactly what you're trying to protect. They're both large American companies with control over your data and your data and metadata will end up in their respective clouds. Push notifications will be handled by Google services if you use Android, but there's an equivalent mechanism for iOS just that it uses their servers. They handle some details differently, but I don't think any of those options deserve the word privacy.

There are some user friendly Android based alternatives out there, since it's based on open source. Personally I'm running a device with /e/OS, which you can either install yourself or buy a phone with it pre-installed. There are also some other user friendly options out there such as the Volla Phone.

But yeah, iOS is probably a better bet than stock Android, as Apple has a history of being abusive towards their customers in other ways than by selling their data. But crucially both Google and Apple are American companies, so you should avoid depending on their cloud services to whatever degree possible. There's no such thing as safe data if it is stored by an American company.

Looking just at location... Apple is actually better at location tracking precision than Google, and you can't turn it off (even powering off your phone doesn't shut it off). Disabling location services doesn't prevent the data collection by Apple, it only blocks apps from using it.

Apple is probably better at not sharing your data with others than Goolge, but that's a position of faith, not fact. If you trust Apple and are diligent about blocking location access to 3rd party apps, it's better. But you should expect that if you're giving location access to a free app (like Google maps, a weather app, a ride share app, a streaming app, etc.), you can bet they are selling your location data.

You're just changing the bucket which the data is dumped into and the interface used. It's an unfortunate reality that you need to research and be willing to take charge of your devices to proactively prevent spying.

GrapheneOS, /e/ OS, and other community ecosystems are mandatory to have complete data security. Google and Apple will never directly grant you the permission to turn all the data taps off.

i’d say so. i was a professional Android dev for years, and security and privacy are definitely one of the reasons i prefer iOS. i don’t have time to play with my phone so much for my personal device. Apple is the lesser of 2 evils since their business model doesn’t depend on this kind of tracking (even if they do it as well albeit to a lesser extent)