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[–] tym@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

Paywalling the API and therefore killing 3rd party apps killed reddit.. banning anyone with an opinion killed reddit..

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reddit ruined reddit for everyone. AI has nothing to do with it. Well except Reddit making a deal with google to sell everything on their for training AI. But again that is Reddit ruining Reddit.

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[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 360 points 5 days ago (5 children)

no ; reddit is ruining reddit for everyone.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 117 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I beg to differ: spez has ruined reddit for everyone.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 44 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Not for himself, as he just joined the billionaire club. I would probably have ruined it for a billion as well, if I'm being completely honest.

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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 95 points 5 days ago (10 children)

No, Reddit ruined Reddit for everyone. The AI slops are simply what replace the people who left.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 268 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Reddit was one of the most human places on the Internet, until King Steven the Turd decided that it's human interactions were a valuable resource that he could sell.

Now, it's all just bots talking to bots to learn how to sound human.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 100 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The engagement bots constantly peppering my comments with inane remarks to draw a reaction is what drove me to Lemmy. I was there early on, and it was awesome. As its popularity grew, it became less nice, but I still enjoyed going there. In the end, I didn't feel like commenting because I knew that I'd just get hit with stupid responses calculated to draw a response. It just felt harassing.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

peppering my comments with inane remarks to draw a reaction

They're here, too.

I occasionally see comments to the effect of, "Oh, really? Can you tell me more about that?" That seem pretty likely to just be bots trying to generate data on certain topics for AI training. Thankfully, most people seem to ignore them.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 5 days ago (23 children)

I occasionally see comments to the effect of, "Oh, really? Can you tell me more about that?"

Fuck. Am I a bot?

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Oh, really? Can you tell me more about that?

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[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Reddit is already ruined and has been for a while. And it's been ruined by the greedy Reddit CEO.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 101 points 5 days ago (2 children)

spez ruined reddit for everyone

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What? What did the moderator of r/jailbait do now?

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (4 children)

That one always rung a big hollow to me because of the timeframe of it. At the time he was made a mod there, invites didn't exist. Folks could just be added to subs- it was actually a method for trolling. At the time, I could add Steve to r/SteveLovesDiddlingKids, for example, and he'd have no say in it. They changed it to an invite system after a subreddit called r/CrabBucket heavily abused it to force folks to stay.

That said, one can quite readily say that spez implicitly supported the jailbait subreddit when he left it up for several years knowingly (Including it being a subheader for reddit on google searches, and it getting nominated for subreddit of the year along with several votes for it.) and only got rid of it when Anderson Cooper did a report on CNN about it.

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[–] LefterShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone 83 points 5 days ago (3 children)

reddit already ruined reddit for everyone long before AI was a concern.

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[–] Sarcasmo@piefed.social 128 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Reddit was ruined for me a couple of years ago and AI wasn't involved. I no longer interact there but I do still read Reddit occasionally. Personally I find it difficult to wade through hundreds of one-liners without forgetting what the post was about.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 65 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, I left during the first wave of API changes and before the company went public, but the AI has definitely made it completely unusable.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I find the usefulness of a subreddit is inversely proportional to its size (popularity). There are still some good ones but they are quite small.

I had hoped Lemmy would fill this void for me but it’s still too small overall such that the smallest communities are barely active at all. Thus I tend to just scroll the feed of everything and see what catches my eye, admittedly a much less useful way to spend my time since I get sucked into ragebait instead of discussing cool hobbies.

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 49 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, that happened way before the current AI slop bubble.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes it did. Making up variation of the same story in order to farm upvotes used to be done by humans.

But the strategy of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks has now been industrialized with AI, because the machine can produce tons of cheaper, faster, smellier shit.

Reddit and generally socials are basically the perfect application for AI. Unreliable results are not a bug but a feature. You have thousands of humans helpfully training it for free by up or downvoting the result. And the AI companies get a machine trained to persuade large groups of people of any made-up story.

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[–] Framptonian@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I used to have a reddit account and truly enjoyed it - but I quit when it became obvious that most of the site is simply run by bots that aim to stir the pot and divide people. I still read various reddit posts - but there is no longer any real knowledge to be gained. Mostly, I now just experience frustration, mistrust, and disappointment.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Reddit was ruined long ago, this just accelerates the decline.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Letting gallowboob "moderate" the basically the whole front page was an insane decision. Some of those guys were selling product placement.

The centralization of power to few mods was always a problem, but smaller communities got by.

The huge quality drop came when Spez felt he missed the IPO wave around 2018 and decided to growth hack the site. Then they finally killed most of them too with the API drama.

Popular and moving away from hot to best was also bad. They horribly failed to discipline abuse from the_donald for years...

New reddit is still not even usable from a phone. It crashes frequently and i swaer to God it only shows like 8 posts and just fucking loops through them (how have thry not noticed this, I only check 4 subreddits and its unbearable).

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Nazi sympathizing has already ruined Reddit.

That shithole has been sanitized for advertisers, which means banning anyone who talks about resisting the fascist slide America is currently in but allows /r/conservative to exist for foreign actors to spread misinformation from.

Fuck Reddit, fuck Spez, those Nazi fucks will get what’s coming to them if we’re lucky.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 64 points 5 days ago (4 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Niche communities that simply don't exist on Lemmy. If your only hobbies are tech, lemmy probably covers all of your bases, but there are nearly no niche non-tech communities here.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

but there are nearly no niche non-tech communities here.

And if they do exist, there are 4 subscribers and zero posts in the last 6 months.

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[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 58 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Let's not blame AI for everything: Reddit had a lot of problems before AI became big. Repost bots are so common that you'll see the same posts over and over again. Some of those twitter screenshots must have been posted hundreds or thousands of times. OnlyFans spam also works without AI. And we have had those bots spamming the same stupid comments before people were even thinking about GPTs.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago

Reddit's founder and investors killed reddit, the method they used is immaterial.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Let’s be real…Reddit itself is moderated by AI.

People who moderate subs should be called “hall monitors” or something. It’s rare to find moderators who are actually moderating with impartiality, rather that being petty and taking sides. They also have tools to exploit the Reddit auto-mod system.

It was enshitified ages ago. 

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

It’s ruining everthing it touches. Reddit is far from the only victim of that garbage.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago

Reddit was the good place after the fall of Digg 2.0. Now Reddit has become the bad place.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago

AI slop is ruining everything *

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 5 days ago

Reddit already ruined Reddit. The AI slop is just the broken glass in the turd.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What, did /u/spez change his name to /u/AI_Slop?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've noticed an uptic of AI generated content being posted outside the AI circle jerk subreddits. Places like the AoE4 and Bionicle subreddits have had quite a number of AI posts already.

Theyve become too courageous, with others going out of the way to defend the use of generative AI with weak arguments like "but cars also steal jobs".

The one subreddit that I've seen have a healthy response against AI generated content is the Bionicle subreddit. Doesn't really surprise me as the Bionicle community is full of creatives.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Reddit was the playground for ai slop long before commercial LLMs existed. Subredditsimulator was like 2014 or 2015 and people were fucking with markov chains and other shit that dated back to like the 90s or even 70s but that also had some people experimenting with rudimentary neural networks, though obviously none with the computing power of shit like chatgpt or gemini. And obviously that whole experiment was inspired in part by the fact that botted comments were becoming increasingly common and obvious on reddit in the years leading to it, so why not make a subreddit where everyone participating is a bot?

There’s no proof but openai researchers may have been fucking around on that sub. There was a fairly drastic increase in quality of posts in that sub around the time openai would’ve been making gpt1 (2018ish) and then they began aggressively scraping the entirety of reddit, quora, etc for content. Could just be a coincidence though and they’ll never confirm it even if it’s true bc redditors will flip shit

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

spez is ruining reddit for everyone.

and venture capitalists.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Fuck reddit

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You mean those pictures all over the front page of kittens with a caption like "I found this guy in a shoebox, in the basement, hungry. I fed him and named him Mortimer." are not real?!?!

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[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I'm reading AI content there, and when I post, I'm getting accused of being a bot / using an LLM. Fantastic.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Did spez change his name to AI?

[–] emb@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yes. But, to perhaps a lower extent, this headline is also true if you change 'Reddit' to 'the internet'.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

one of the most human spaces left on the internet

Journalism once again demonstrating they are about 10-15 years behind on the times. Did they forget reddit completely broke back in 2016 when the_donald left the place in a permanent troll state.

I'm not going to read the article on account of time right now but I'm guessing it's written as if reddit was invented yesterday and the prior 20 years of reddit history is didn't happen.

It hasn't been human since the early 2010s. Reddit was botted to death long before LLMs.

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