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[–] tal@lemmy.today 313 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

"Open source" really isn't the right term here, if they're just releasing API specifications. "Open sourcing" the speakers would be releasing the source code to the software that runs on the speakers.

Like, all of Microsoft's libraries on Windows have a publicly-documented interface. That hardly makes them open source. Just means that people can write software that make use of them.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, the correct term for this would be “open api”

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"documented api", nothing open about it

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Idk, it probably has an open backdoor somewhere

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

There is a Soundtouch extension to Music Assistant, which which is part of Home Assistant. Last I checked the developer is unsure how functional the wireless speakers will be after the app shutdown.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Indeed it's misleading wording but credit where credit is due, this is far better than turning them all into e-waste. It's not like anyone bought these with the assumption they would have any sort of official API someday, especially after seeing how Sonos handled their similar situation...

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

It’s misleading wording by arse-technica, not Bose. The quoted wording from Nosebis correct and it looks like they’re doing the right thing. After originally announcing they would be dumb speakers, now they’ll continue to be useful and third party apps can continue to use them. Applaud Bose for doing the right thing

Direct your Boos to arse-technica

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We need a law that companies provide device owners root access for every end of life device.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's something the EU would do, but never America.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

How about a free gun at the end of life of any device?

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

NOW we're talking!

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think medical device manufacturers should have to support their products for some definite length of time—maybe 10 years?—or not be allowed to make devices at all

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This type of laws already exist in some cases, but realistically no one knows that the company won't just go bankrupt in 5 years. Open sourcing things is a "reasonable" last resort option, or rather, the only viable one

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For software too, if a company has sold software and then goes out of business, it should have to give all licensed users permanent access to use it. Preferably also the source code. (Ideally we'd have open source options for everything but that's not always practical or possible right now.)

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes! Exactly. I buy, I own. That's what it SHOULD be.

Phones are the worst example. Pay 1500 moneyz and still it's not yours. You may only use it in the way they want you to. Ugh.

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would be one thing for a corporation to misuse the term open source as they've been doing lately. It's pretty bad for one of the biggest and oldest tech news sites to be doing it.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

More like ArseTechnica, eh?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago (5 children)

No thanks. I had like 20 sonos speaker, and then, one day, sonos decided to fuck the app up, making it impossible to use my library anymore. This was the day I sold them all, ranted like a pissed off babuskha and never thought of buying similar products ever but make my own.

Real open source or go fork yourself in the eye. I'm so done with this corpo-crapshit

[–] BeyondRuby@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You sound like an extremist brother. If they lie and dont do it (seems like they already have made it open-source) then get mad. But it sounds like you are upset because you got screwed by Sonos and Bose actually are attempting to do the right thing for their customers.

[–] NovaTheFluf@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thing is they didn't actually open-source it, as stated in other comments. They just released the api documentation. While, yes, it is a step in the correct direction, it is definitely not open-source. Open source would be releasing the source code for all the software involved, which they haven't done.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wasn’t affected by the Sonos App fiasco because I don’t use it. I mostly use the speakers through Spotify, and occasionally through Home Assistant. I only need the app to set my wake schedule but once it was done, I didn’t need to go back.

Won’t this allow the same? With the API, you should be able to continue using your speakers with local automation, assuming someone wants to implement that.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Extremist? Nah, I'm just old enough to have been fooled and fucked way too often by the enshittification, so that I have serious trust issues with corpo promises now.

I try to stay away from big tech crap as far as I can. If there's no open source alternative, I make my own (if complexity allows) or just don't use it at all.

And I'm not upset at Bose. Great if they really deliver. I just doubt they will. And if they do, it would be the one shiny example that stands out. But it would make Bose a bit more attractive to me then. At least the older ones.

Besides, other comments say they just release the API, not made it real open source. Dunno what is true and also don't care. Yet it would be a substantial difference.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Basic documentation does not equal open source.

Toaster ovens from 40 years ago did better. They came with a technical diagram.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 21 points 1 month ago

We need to start demanding technical diagrams again. I've fixed up antiques where the schematics were printed on the inside, even for a simple flashlight.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

But that means you'll repair it rather than just buying another. We can't have that! Think of the GDP!

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a pretty cool thing to do

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They didn't open source anything.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but at least documenting the API and saying “have at it” is better than dropping it

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago

The headline is still misleading.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

And they didn't do it. The headline is misleading.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago
[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is there any quality, real open-source speakers? Or it's way better not bother with it and get dumb speakers and an SBC?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't use OpenHAB or Home Assistant, but I'd be extremely surprised if they don't have existing functionality for connecting microphones, speakers, and LLMs to set up voice-controlled stuff.

searches

https://heywillow.io/

Willow Is a Practical, Open Source, Privacy-focused Platform for Voice Assistants and Other Applications

Willow is an ESP IDF based project primarily targeting the ESP32-S3-BOX hardware family from Espressif. Our goal is to provide Amazon Echo/Google Home competitive performance, accuracy, cost and functionality with Home Assistant, openHAB and other platforms.

100% open source and completely self-hosted by the user with "ready for the kitchen counter" low cost commercially available hardware.

https://rhasspy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Rhasspy (ɹˈæspi) is an open source, fully offline set of voice assistant services for many human languages that works well with:

  • Hermes protocol compatible services (Snips.AI)
  • Home Assistant and Hass.io
  • Node-RED
  • Jeedom
  • OpenHAB
[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For passive, and even now some active loudspeakers, very much so.

Links for passives: https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/diy https://www.zaphaudio.com/ https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-kits/ (etc)

Active speakers are usually things like this and use commercially available parts with commercial software. But if you want you can build a DIY DSP and DAC and DIY amplifier. Note that there are tons of other designs for both available.

The DIY audio community is very vibrant. There are tons and tons of forums collaboratively iterating. You can build DIY headphones and DIY headphone amplifiers. Hell, you can even build DIY speaker drivers.

Anything I missed was not an intentional omission, lol.

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[–] nroth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They're never getting those integrations back though, e.g. Spotify. Those are usually implemented in each company's servers rather than something that can be brokered locally through an API. That needs to change

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