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Samsung said in response that “a trade show floor is naturally very different from a consumer’s home environment. Our Bespoke AI experiences are designed to simplify decisions around the home, making life more convenient and enjoyable.”
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
They deserve to sell none of their shitty fridges.
This is the same Samsung that sold fridges with giant LCD screens on them, ostensibly to help the buyer, but then later turned that expensive screen into a billboard showing ads to the fridge buyer in their kitchen (source). Samsung has shown who they are. Anyone that buys an AI fridge from them will have no one to blame but themselves.
I feel like the problem here is that you get people who are curious or like the other features the fridge has and just get what they can when theirs goes out. And while, sure, those people learn not to do that again, by that point the industry used that sales data as a "they must like it, lets do it across the board!" Instead of asking people or taking anything else into account when figuring out what products to continue making.
In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who "learned their lesson" go to buy a new fridge, there will be zero fridges without AI because marketing thought thats why they bought it and no one has any ability to buy a non-AI fridge anymore.
I think you are giving people too much credit. Lots of people have a budget they can spend on appliances (like a credit line) and they get the best (most expensive) one they can get on that budget. Others will do the opposite and get the cheapest but only people like you find on Lemmy (Linux users for instance) in my experience will make a choice in the middle based on feature set.
In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who “learned their lesson” go to buy a new fridge
That's more like two years for Samsung fridges, where the designers and builders spend all of their time on fancy horseshit and ignore basic requirements like "keep the food cold".
These also have an entire computer running Tizen behind the screen in the door, which generates waste heat and dumps it... into your refrigerator. Genius!
“security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge
My AI-less, internet-less fridge is quite private and secure. Furthermore, it keeps food perfectly cold!
It isn't sexy, but products that just work are 100x better than products with 40 features that can all brick it for no reason or annoy you to death.
It might not be sexy, but I'd argue it doesn't need AI to be.
Take the SMEG ones as an example - they're not my cup of tea, but the amount of people who are willing to pay a premium for a fridge that doesn't do anything special other than looking nice shows clearly that.
They might also be paying a premium for a refrigerator with that name specifically.
Smeg-heads do be like that.
Do they... do they know what the C in CES stands for?
Judging from the way AMD got up and spent all their time talking about their data centre products, nobody does.
Nothing now. The branding has completely pivoted, CES isn't even an acronym anymore.
I've had a few Samsung appliances. They are, by far, the worst appliances I've owned. I will not be buying another from them. If they want to make life more convenient, they need to make better devices, not shove screens, wifi, and AI into their crappy products.
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
suck it, Jin Yang
I'd be unemployed and in trouble, but sometimes I do wish a gigantic solar storm would cut off the internet for a year. Humanity needs the reset. Please stop shoving Wi-Fi into every device.
Things that can be wifi: my light switches and anything that might’ve had an analog timer back in the day. Anything critical? You can buy an analog sensor that will beep if it’s out of limits, like a freezer alarm.
The rest can f right off.
Light switches can also not be wifi. Hell, id personally prefer them not to
And they'll probably shut down the AI servers in a few years for cost reduction making the whole thing a huge waste of money.
That's the point.
Have you ever seen the commercials from late 1800s where there is the word "electricity" in everything. Electrotherapy for every ill and electric solution for every type of drudgery, electrolyte drinks and whatnot. Same came with discovery of radioactivity. Radium drinks for long life and all that. AI is the modern buzzword for the modern snakeoil salesman.
I remember a story my Dad told me. His boss comes in and goes "we need a computer" (this was the 80s). He asked "why". He couldn't answer.
AI now is like that, except when someone asks "why", they get fired and the boss slams it in anyway. It doesn't make the product better or even more attractive. Dell has admitted that and is the only company to admit that. At best it's a shite search engine that's being forced on everyone against their will.
AI chat bots should be OPTIONAL, not forced onto people against their will. At best it's a shitty search engine, at worse it is a slop machine.
Only practical solution I can think of for an AI chatbot is an optional voice mode where you can go to, say, a ticket machine and be all "hey, cheapest fare to Dundee" or something and it gives you it, but that can be done without fucking the environment and eating all the ram by just having better UI design.
I'm astounded there hasn't been a legal case already where some AI customer service bot hallucinated and promised a customer a million dollars or something and they're trying to claim it. Set that precedent and companies would be dropping those AI clankers right quick.
there has! AI customer bot said they'd be a different price and they forced the flight company to uphold said price.
I'm just going to install a door knocker.
The hot new category at CES 2027 is going to be AI-powered auto door knockers.
"It automatically does a facial scan of any household visitors using Palantir's database and knocks the way they would have."
"Couldn't they just, you know, knock?"
"Sure, but then how would we track who's visiting you while making you pay the power bill for our surveillance devices?"
About the Bosch E-Bike, I have a bike with a Bosch motor and they really are that bad. The bike comes with an app and you need to give them your personal data to "unlock" basic features of the app and an electronic bike lock. If you want to let another person use that bike, you need a subscription. I deleted the app. Fuck Bosch.
I refuse to buy "smart devices" riddled with AI, it's just a drag and not what this tech should be used for.
This year, it is no longer Consumer Electronics Show... it's now Corporate Electronics Show.
Screaming is well and good to build public opinion against this stupidity, but all the CEOs in their towers will heed is no sales.
We need to make it uncool to like or tolerate AI bullshit in consumer products.
If you have friends, and they show you their new fridge with a touch screen, don't be polite. Tell them it's the stupidest thing you've ever seen, and then mock them for choosing it every chance you get. And, no, I don't have friends anymore (but, this is not why).
Heckling your friends after they dropped $3k on some sloppy fridge is kinda cruel. Advise them hard when they ask for advice - here's where you say "everyone will laugh" and "stupidest idea" - but commiserate when they realize what they've got.
You want to be in a position to offer advice for the next sloppy purchase.
What's worse than that are the fully camera, gyroscope, and GPS equipped children's toys that send all their data to an AI server.
Gyroscope, fine, I can understand them trying to understand how the toy is utilised.
GPS? Fuck off.
CAMERA?! What in the ever loving...
Yeah, so there are these kids toys at CES now that are always watching and always listening. Gyroscope if the toy is being picked up and moved, GPS to track where in the house it is, or where it's going outside.
It's loaded with voice and facial recognition that can track moods and environmental context. But obviously it doesn't work offline. It has no on board AI, so all the data is sent to a service somewhere which will generate responses for the toy.
I wish it was just one such product being promoted at CES, but I've seen several videos now of multiple upstart toy tech brands selling similar AI plushies and such.
I'm holding off until HD AI.
I just installed a new doorbell button, the little light burned out in my old one.
I don't have a "security" camera. As far as I can tell, all they do is provide a memento of the crime after the fact, and prompt my neighbors to worry about "suspicious" people outside walking. They seem to do the opposite of making people feel more secure. They seem to raise anxiety.
I watched a video about the worst of CES. I was kind of amused that some of the winners of worst-of weren't even new ideas
There was a candy I remember that from a long time ago, idk 2000ish? It was a lollipop you bit down on and you could hear music played through your teeth. I never tried it but it was sold where I worked
Another idea, the worst of the worst, was the smart fridge. I remember from business classes I took many years ago used that as an example of innovation. Or a "smart" microwave. You let it know what ingredients you have, for example by scanning the barcode, so it can recommend recipes or alert you when something is running low
The rendition of those ideas at the CES were so out of touch
A candy that plays music while you eat it
This is the sort of misapplication of technology that traumatised me as a kid, dammit
Why is that coffee machine showing me a picture of the Sydney Opera House instead of making coffee?
