i would hope every new version of wine runs windows apps in linux and mac better than ever.
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Patch notes: “Made the app a little worse just to keep things interesting.”
That's the Microsoft strategy, but they forgot to make it better sometimes too
It's been Android too at least since they stopped naming versions after sweets
The Microsoft strategy often seems to be "It worked well, but we completely redid it because we need to justify out existence. Now it barely works with new bugs"
Wine 1.1, now with AI integration

The trick is that isn't a capital i, it is a lowercase L. Now with AL integration. Every program you run just has a picture of Weird Al and a snippet of a random song from his greatest hits album as a splash screen.
I'd run it.
At this point, and given the current state of Proton (👍) and the current state of Windows (👎), the question should be, "Does the new version of Wine run Windows apps better than Windows?"
With some apps/games it definitely feels like it does. Would love to see someone dedicated do proper Wine vs windows benchmarks!
There are plenty of old applications that just do not run on windows 10/11 anymore at all. Wine and emulation is the only choice left for those.
There were some last year specifically for games on SteamOS vs Windows, like this: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/
I've managed to run some old games on Linux with Bottles/Wine that didn't work on Windows anymore.
Yes. It can run classic gaming that windows outright refuses to run. Wild
"Fastest iphone ever!" Yea I'd sure hope so being that it's new and all
on average that's the expected outcome, but sometimes there's a regression here and there for specific apps
Sometimes I forget macOS exists
I love it because its existence means I get a good chance of having a UNIX-based machine in new corporate dev positions. If a company is giving me a work laptop, I'll take a MBP over a Windows laptop any day (assuming I can't install Linux)
I still can't stand the Apple design philosophy no matter how much exposure. Mostly has to do with their "saving the user from themselves" restrictions in their operating systems. I'd rather defang windows instead, even if it takes much longer per machine.
Have you used a Mac in the last 10 years, beyond just flicking the mouse around at a FutureShop?
I love the duality of saying "in the last 10 years" and "FutureShop" in the same sentence.
Yes, last contract IT job (Macbook Pro, approx 10 months ago). I wanted to smash it in half over my knee and grab a random Thinkpad with my ventoy usb in hand.

I misread that as "Win 11 runs Linux and macOS apps better than ever" and was ready to sarcastically point out that Linux runs Linux apps better too.
Contrarily, Win 11 does run Windows apps worse than ever
I mean, isn't that kinda the goal...?
Windows 11 might be usable if it gets a wine port so it can run windows apps.
Ooh, those are some lovely features. If only Nvidia hadn't dropped support for 10xx cards as per 590.xx locking me on kernel 6.12, I might even have been able to enjoy using ntsync!
(Fuck Nvidia)
I guess this isn't really even "news" to Linux gamers now, but once in a while it's nice to make an article about what constant progress has happened in a certain sphere. Certainly many people staying on Windows out of inertia blinked and missed it.
My fervent hope is that, someday in the future, people can build a gaming PC and just forego Windows to save $100.
What about software outside of browsers of gaming? Lemmy talks about gaming a lot but it remains to be seen if working professionals are able to leave W11 behind
This is a funny take given that for most of Linux history, the majority of Linux desktop user have been “working professionals”, largely IT workers and developers to be fair.
At this point, you cannot really make a blanket statement about who Linux is appropriate for. It is down to individual use cases and preferences.
I have been using Linux for decades and, while I have also used Windows and macOS, other operating systems are frustrating to use due to the many limitations. And I have been several kinds of “working professional” over that time at many different levels of seniority. But I recognize that this is because all my workflows and expectations evolved on Linux.
The “working professionals” you imagine likely have the same issue. It is not that Linux could not work, or even that it is not a better place to start. It is document compatibility and familiarity.
At this point, Linux “being ready” comes down almost completely to a tolerance for learning and change. Nobody says you have to change of course. But working differently does not mean that something else does not work.
There are of course still some software gaps. CAD is not great on Linux (getting there). Print graphics professionals (people with CMYK workflows) will hit real roadblocks. Some debugging tools available on Windows are worth the productivity for certain workflows. Pro audio too I guess though this not my area. And “office document” users may encounter display inconsistencies when sharing documents depending on which features they rely on. Perhaps the latter is what you mean.
As for gaming, it depends on what titles you favour. Some Windows games play better on Linux. Some worse. And of course some not at all.
When choosing software for a company, I consider something that cannot work on the Linux desktop or through the cloud disqualifying. I can think of few cases where that has been the wrong decision.
Software outside of gaming usually has native alternatives, so unless you are forced by your employer to use a specific program it is less of an issue (since you are probably also forced to use Windows)
I am just hoping the Steam Frame provides the foundation so that in the years to come I can get off Windows for VR development. Feel trapped right now.
Is it because Wine has improved, or because Windows has not?
Yes
Windows aged like milk while wine is wine.
If anyone has experience in running Fusion 360 on wine plz shout up, that's the last thing I need to work out before switching to Zorin...
It's better with something like Winboat (virtualized windows container) within your OS than something like Wine. This is the same case for other "We don't support Linux officially and actively block it because fuck you" productivity applications like Adobe's suite.
Personally, I moved from Fusion360 to FreeCAD instead, but I haven't heard anything negative about the Winboat method.
Fusion works flawlessly for me in winapps (and I'm sure winboat), but it is s-l-o-w. I probably need to figure out GPU passthrough and it might be bearable... But I haven't had much time to dedicate figuring it out.
Good stuff Wine.
The only thing I need to run on windows now is for H&R block tax software. I wonder if I can try it with wine but I'm afraid of losing the activation license
I'm glad I don't really have any apps that require windows any more; apart from Affinity, which doesn't run in wine that well, and foobar2000, which genuinely works so well in wine that I might as well forget that there's no native Linux release.
https://github.com/seapear/AffinityOnLinux
There's a Wine fork tweaked especially for Affinity that works amazingly well.