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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 352 points 1 month ago (10 children)

i would hope every new version of wine runs windows apps in linux and mac better than ever.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 332 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Patch notes: “Made the app a little worse just to keep things interesting.”

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 127 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's the Microsoft strategy, but they forgot to make it better sometimes too

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's been Android too at least since they stopped naming versions after sweets

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Kit Kat was the last great android version for me

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish everyone would follow Apple's lead (literally exclusively just this one time) and rename their software versions to their associated year.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That would make too much sense

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

jellybean and gingerbread for me

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Microsoft strategy often seems to be "It worked well, but we completely redid it because we need to justify out existence. Now it barely works with new bugs"

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's more Google's strategy. Microsoft is more "we updated a bunch of stuff so that we could push our products and services even harder and closed workarounds people are using to avoid them, and if you don't like it, fuck you, what're you gonna do?"

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Rule #76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wine 1.1, now with AI integration

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The trick is that isn't a capital i, it is a lowercase L. Now with AL integration. Every program you run just has a picture of Weird Al and a snippet of a random song from his greatest hits album as a splash screen.

[–] slaughterhouse@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

You son of a bitch. I'm in.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 85 points 1 month ago (7 children)

At this point, and given the current state of Proton (👍) and the current state of Windows (👎), the question should be, "Does the new version of Wine run Windows apps better than Windows?"

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

With some apps/games it definitely feels like it does. Would love to see someone dedicated do proper Wine vs windows benchmarks!

There are plenty of old applications that just do not run on windows 10/11 anymore at all. Wine and emulation is the only choice left for those.

[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There were some last year specifically for games on SteamOS vs Windows, like this: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@olio.cafe 18 points 1 month ago

I've managed to run some old games on Linux with Bottles/Wine that didn't work on Windows anymore.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Yes. It can run classic gaming that windows outright refuses to run. Wild

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yes. Especially if said application was developed before 2010.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I misread the title at first and I genuinely thought that's what this article was about.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 month ago

There used to be a Wine on Windows project because Wine was so much better at backwards compatibility.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Proton works nicely in steam

Non steam games is an entirely different complicated issue (for some games)

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Heroic works great for pirated hentai games and GOG games.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Epic and GOG work on Heroic just fine and I've run two standalone games (Elite Dangerous and ESO) using Lutris with no problems.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

You can download Proton for use outside of Steam, I use it in Lutris and Bottles pretty regularly. Also, you should be able to get just about anything to run just as well in Bottles or Lutris as it will in steam, but I will admit it can take some tinkering with some games or software and there is a much easier option: Add "non-steam game" in Steam library and run whatever program you need through Steam anyway.

[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

What kind of complicated issue? Simply adding them as non-steam games seems to work fine. I've managed to get jank ass pirated 90s visual novels running, fan-patched, on a steam deck lmao

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago

"Fastest iphone ever!" Yea I'd sure hope so being that it's new and all

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

on average that's the expected outcome, but sometimes there's a regression here and there for specific apps

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

The next headline is going to be that they run better in wine than in windows.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

We're close to the Microsoft ecosystem here; newer version being better is not a given.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I think that's the entire point of having a new version lol

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It still probably doesn't run two applications that I like to use, that is paint.net and the latest free version of SketchUp (unavailable for download officially).

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Not sure how serious your comment is, but I could certainly imagine Microsoft introducing new dependencies/hooks/all-executables-must-support-copilot, etc., that break compatibility faster than Wine can keep up. Glad to hear that's not the case!

For old stuff though...yeah, I'd hope it's not moving backwards :)

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Bugs and forced regressions?