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I'm talking about what they say at 8:20:

Bulletin boards, forums, blogs. The main difference to today was twofold:  

For one there were no algorithms fighting to keep you online at any cost – at some point you were done with the internet for the day, as mind blowing as this may sound.

But more importantly: The old internet was very fractured, split into thousands of different communities, like small villages gathering around shared beliefs and interests.

These villages were separated from each other by digital rivers or mountains. These communities worked because they mirrored  real life much more than social media:  

Each village had its own culture and set of rules.  Maybe one community was into rough humour and soft moderation, another had strict rules and banned  easily.

If you didn’t play by the village rules,  you would be banned – or you could just go and move to another village that suited you better.

So instead of all of us gathering in one place, overwhelming our brains at a townsquare that in the end just leads to us going insane, one solution to achieve less social sorting may be extremely simple:

go back to smaller online communities.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah there's not much that the Fediverse adds to the equation that a forum wouldn't handle. It's actually worse in a lot of ways, because on a forum you're not going to have seven different subforums dedicated to the same topics, like the federation does by having 200 servers each with generally similar and redundant subcommunities. Sports is a big example I use, because it's the most evident.

One of the most popular moderation moves on this platform has been to lock these excess communities and forward them to a central one that is actually active.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Isn't it kinda the opposite? A fediverse is not multiple separate isolated villages, it's a bunch of villages all bundled up together in one place within walking distance.

[–] firecat@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Kurzgesagt Is becoming a conspiracy channel. As someone who experienced the era of Bulletin boards, forums, blogs. Kurzgesagt Got the information wrong. Yes, there was small communitys like current fediverse, kbin is such an example where Lemmy world is much bigger. Yet, nothing is bad about it.

Rules exist for a reason Kurzgesagt, always have been. They themselves should know how toxic people can become.

I recommend everyone to stop watching Kurzgesagt. Tell people to stop Kurzgesagt crazy thinking and tell Kurzgesagt how wrong they are.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What are you even talking about? I feel like I got 0 useful actionable information from your comment, just a vague sense of dread. What rules are they breaking? What specifically is wrong with this video?

[–] firecat@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Kurzgesagt is saying internet is bad. However, the research they source is telling people that the internet is just being misused and governments aren’t doing anything to protect everyone. The other research says humans will stay in what they believe because of their social network. Kurzgesagt Will never mention it.

[–] amio@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anything to substantiate this? What specifically do you have an issue with?

[–] firecat@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

The source clearly outlined that people will stay within their community because they believe in their choice. Yet, Kurzgesagt makes no mention of it. The other source is from news papers mentioning social media platforms and impact on people. Looking into the research tells you everything else. The data was collected in certain areas but should not be used as evidence for all of the internet. Things like video, music and outside activities take time and just claiming to only look at past twitter or only older people of Facebook isn’t going to get enough context in internet problems. Kurzgesagt Will never mention the research because the research is saying they want more data.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

I stopped watching them when they did their climate change video, which was such a corporate greenwashing feelgood bullshit video that I just couldn't justify it anymore.