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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Ignorant parents unwilling to monitor their kids or utilize already available tools to aid in preventing access to inappropriate material want devs to do so for them, ushering in a surveillance state.

[–] alonsohmtz@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

Let me guess, none of them said this during their campaigns.

Useful idiots only elect servants of the ruling class.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 98 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We don't want kids downloading bad stuff.

Then parents should keep an eye on their kids. Or just don't give them full on access to the computer.

I hate that politicians keep trying to invent technology to do a parents job.

[–] VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We care so much about the children!"

Meanwhile: Pedophiles? Is ok. Climate Change? Hoax. Abortion? Is evil. School shootings? Unavoidable. Child labor? Can boost the economy. Also don't forget the army is recruiting, the meat grinder needs feeding.

I think it's absolutely obvious the USA government gives zero shit about kids. They are only being use as laverage just like in any dysfunctional family.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

Go ahead. My OS belongs to me. It does what I say. If you want it to tell you I'm an adult, it will.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 42 points 1 day ago

The war on general purpose computing.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You know it's a bad idea because it's literally what Mark Zuckerberg suggested in court the other day.

How will they know no one else is using the device? Kids use their parents devices and tablets all the time.

It's a backdoor to a national digital ID scheme.

[–] halfwaythere@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Obviously every device will be required to have both

  1. An always on camera for facial recoog, recounting of wrinkles using AI

2.Always on microphone for voice age analysis through stress levels using AI

  1. Running the only safe and super duper secure operating system Microsoft AI.

If you don't have all three it's an automatic 3 strikes felony offense and you're sent straight to labor camps for the rest of your existence no AI needed (silver lining right? Riiiight)

Duh.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A-ha. All for the sake of children. Guess what makes my butt hurt: there are still people who buy this. And many of them

[–] osanna@thebrainbin.org 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

holy fuck. the stupidity. it hurts.

[–] alonsohmtz@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago

Not sure why dipshits keep voting for these stooges.

Oh right, it's because they're dipshits.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Before I go full tin foil hat on this theory, I want to know how they plan on making it so the signal is sent client side without the client being able to fake the signal.

Like, this sounds like something that any type of OS that allows you to install a program will be able to bypass quite easily either by always sending the adult signal or never sending the adult signal

Like reading the bill, they explicitly forbid any type of personally identifying information being transferred. It sounds like it's just a DOB check and if you say you are > 13 or whatever age they have it as it sends a signal.

I'm happy it isn't allowed to send PII but like at the same time, I feel like just having websites put an age check prompt up does the same thing

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So… you know how Battlefield 6 requires Secure Boot and TPM enabled, which just so happens to mean you can only use Windows 11? Yeah, they’ve been priming it for a while. Soon they’ll mandate that the browsers have hooks than can read the attestation of the system like Google’s Safety system on Android, and then sites won’t even load if it doesn’t pass.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So I get what you're going at, but I did want to add that secure boot doesn't require Windows 11. And that the main issue with Battlefield 6 isn't the fact that it has secure boot enabled because you can use Battlefield 6 on Linux with secure boot. The issue is it won't pass the anti-cheat, which is Javolin if I remember correctly, breaks itself when in a Proton environment.

Being said, I don't think secure boot is the threat everyone thinks it is. Microsoft was originally not going to let alternative platforms be allowed on the secure boot environment. However, they started facing legal threats regarding it, including a potential ban in Australia and part of the EU stated they were looking into investigating it in regards to anti-trust, so they ended up caving to avoid having a judgment in court. I don't foresee Microsoft going back to making it so they're the only one allowed again,and if they do it's almost certain they'll be anti-trusted

I can see the concern on a Google attestion style system, but I don't ever foresee it getting that bad because people will just not use the system. The only reason it's working somewhat well for Google is because it's integrated into Android as a whole and practically forced upon developers if they want to use the existing integrity systems. Being said, I've only ever seen it in banking apps. I don't think I've ever seen it on a website to website basis.

[–] turkalino@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

Secure Boot and TPM are not Windows-only technologies. I'm secure booting openSUSE right now

[–] _deleted_@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Just laugh and move on. It’s not going to happen.

These people have no idea what they’re talking about. They think that the developers of four hundred Linux distros, FreeDOS, Haiku, *nix, the BSDs, are even going to bother trying. Then you have industrial boxen running obsolete operating systems, routers, all the network devices that run the internet.

EDIT: and then every application that runs on every platform also needs to be updated. Like that’s going to happen.

If they really cared about the children, they would just physically cut the cables at the Colorado border. That’s the only way that any sort of access control can be enforced.

[–] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 1 points 16 hours ago

Dude, Trump it's a MEME candidate, it's never going to win >>> 2 terms later

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

The one hurdle politicians can always surpass is the stupidity of an idea...

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

EDIT: and then every application that runs on every platform also needs to be updated. Like that’s going to happen.

No, they're wanting to target at the OS level and i doubt they know or care about linux.

[–] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Next they’ll want you to have a license to program (without AI)

[–] Feyd@programming.dev -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Iirc California had a similar proposal to this. I actually think it's not a terrible idea at the core. It's basically an API for parental controls. You set up a device (or account on a device) and say "this is a device for a kid" and that gets used for everything. It actually makes a lot of sense to do something in that direction. Part of the reason people are convinced something needs to be done is because managing parental controls across the different myriad services and apps is a labyrinth that tech savvy parents can barely navigate, and less savvy parents don't stand a chance.

[–] paul@lemmy.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well then the solution is to have some company create a solution to make parental controls much easier.

Instead you're going to give your ID to Peter Thiel who will use that to connect all of your online activity to a single profile of you. Eventually, when he and Trump and all the other right wing idiots feel emboldened they'll send Gestapo to your house on voting day to make sure you can't make it to the polls (or just straight up nullify your vote). And that's the best case scenario.

Palantir is positioning itself as a crime prevention system that needs access to all of your health, education, spending and other data until they know every single thing about you so they can "predict crime before it happens".

In 10 years time, the world is going to be a far worse place and people like you will be to blame for allowing it.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Where does it say you give anyone your ID?

[–] paul@lemmy.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How else are they going to verify your age?

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So you didn't even read it before writing a diatribe accusing me of supporting things I absolutely don't. It literally says in the fucking bill that you just input it into the device.

Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date or age of the user of that device to provide a signal regarding the user's age bracket (age signal) to applications available in a covered application store;

[–] paul@lemmy.org 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah because the American police state will be perfectly happy with you only providing a date. You're going to wake up soon to a world you don't understand, if you don't start paying attention.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Look man, if it's a good solution it's a good solution. You're attacking things that haven't been proposed (by the bill in the OP).

I actually don't think legislation in a US state is a good way to create a technology standard so I wouldn't like to see this pass, but it's honestly the best way that I've seen to provide age verification for websites.

It puts the onus on the parents to set the date correctly and takes it off of businesses to comply by doing it themselves where privacy is definitely at risk. If this is what was implemented it would not harm privacy and it would defang the "protect the children" arguments they constantly use to justify completely destroying privacy.

You can rant and rage until you're red in the face, but those are the facts.