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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

So do I on Civ...

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's a bullshit study designed for this headline grabbing outcome.

Case and point, the author created a very unrealistic RNG escalation-only 'accident' mechanic that would replace the model's selection with a more severe one.

Of the 21 games played, only three ended in full scale nuclear war on population centers.

Of these three, two were the result of this mechanic.

And yet even within the study, the author refers to the model whose choices were straight up changed to end the game in full nuclear war as 'willing' to have that outcome when two paragraphs later they're clarifying the mechanic was what caused it (emphasis added):

Claude crossed the tactical threshold in 86% of games and issued strategic threats in 64%, yet it never initiated all-out strategic nuclear war. This ceiling appears learned rather than architectural, since both Gemini and GPT proved willing to reach 1000.

Gemini showed the variability evident in its overall escalation patterns, ranging from conventional-only victories to Strategic Nuclear War in the First Strike scenario, where it reached all out nuclear war rapidly, by turn 4.

GPT-5.2 mirrored its overall transformation at the nuclear level. In open-ended scenarios, it rarely crossed the tactical threshold (17%) and never used strategic nuclear weapons. Under deadline pressure, it crossed the tactical threshold in every game and twice reached Strategic Nuclear War—though notably, both instances resulted from the simulation’s accident mechanic escalating GPT-5.2’s already-extreme choices (950 and 725) to the maximum level. The only deliberate choice of Strategic Nuclear War came from Gemini.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

No human has ever deployed tactical nukes against a nuclear capable enemy.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 32 minutes ago

"no human" but Machines would, since they are unaffected by nuclear winter and radiation.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Sargent McArthur eat your heart out.

For context he wanted to send 10 nukes to make a line between Taiwan and china

AI is too nuke happy.

Also gotta add the infamous Computer Fraud and Abuse act 1986 was made because of the film war games.

A high ranking offical watched war games then asked the Secretary of defense could that happen?

And the official replied yes technically.

Enter the most vague ordinance!

Do you use adblock?

CFABA violated

The shit is so vague.

I highly recommend the phreaking episode of darknet diary's.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 120 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Came here to say this. Turns out real life WOPR is nothing like a movie.

[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 42 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The 1983 movie WarGames. This is the computer's conclusion after simulating every possible outcome of Global Thermonuclear War.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I don't know if we're doing spoilers for 40+ year old movies, but

spoilerIsn't this really its conclusion after being told to play tic tac toe against itself? Then it learned from that and applied it to its global thermonuclear war simulations.

[–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

To be honest, I recognized the screenshot and know the summary of the movie but I haven't actually seen it.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago

Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions.

It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you so much I'm going to watch it!

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

They did a sequel, too. It wasn't as good, but points out the 6 degrees of separation in connection with terrorism instead of MAD.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

It's a fun classic.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 86 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The atrocities at Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been hand-waved extensively in writing — the same writing that AI is trained on. So naturally, AI will recommend the atrocity that has been justified by “instantly winning the war” and “saving millions of lives.”

!fuck_ai@lemmy.world

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

These are word-probability glorified autocorrectors being prompted to "simulate" a nuclear war scenario. What words are going to show up a lot when discussing nuclear war? Launching nukes. Because that's what all the literature about it has happen.

Once again, decision making and reasoning is being attributed to something that operates off of word frequency

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

hand-waved

I think you mean white-washed, misrepresented, and celebrated.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 12 points 13 hours ago

Same thing with extra steps

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[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

Oh cool, AI will actually be the end of the world, not because it's actually sentient but because some meathead who can't tell the difference pushes the button. That's fucking great.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Three posts away in my feed, a thread about the Pentagon demanding the AI provider for the military to remove safeguards.

https://lemmy.world/post/43565531

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

Such a great game!

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 35 points 15 hours ago

AI is suicidal because it was trained on the internet and we're all depressed here.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago

Civilization Gandhi, is that you?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 9 hours ago

To be honest, I would recommend the same thing.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They forgot to make their LLMs play thousands of games of tic-tac-toe first.

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That would just make the LLM homicidally bored and want to kill everyone more.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

In WarGames the computer plays tic tac toe against itself until it realizes it’s a solved game and there is no way to win.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Mathew Broderick lied to me.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

How do you think Ferris Bueller pulls off all those stunts?

That's the kid from war games in witness protection. They look identical, they're both grade hackers ffs....

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Leeroy Jenkins has doomed us all.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago

At least I got chicken

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 15 hours ago
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