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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 167 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

The fact that AI is "not perfect" is a HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM. Idiots across the world, and people who we'd expect to know better, are making monumental decisions based on AI that isn't perfect, and routinely "hallucinates". We all know this.

Every time I think I've seen the lowest depths of mass stupidity, humanity goes lower.

[–] Skyline969@piefed.ca 85 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Think of the dumbest person you know. Not that one. Dumber. Dumber. Yeah, that one. Now realize that ChatGPT has said “you’re absolutely right” to them no less than a half dozen times today alone.

If LLMs weren’t so damn sycophantic, I think we’d have a lot fewer problems with them. If they could be like “this could be the right answer, but I wasn’t able to verify” and “no, I don’t think what you said is right, and here are reasons why”, people would cling to them less.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

If LLMs weren’t so damn sycophantic,

Has anyone made a nonsycophantic chat bot? I would actually love a chatbot that would tell me to go fuck myself if I asked it to do something inane.

Me: "Whats 9x5?"

Chatbot: "I don't know. Try using your fingers or something?"

Edit: Wait, this is just glados.

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I am not a chatbot, but I can do daily "go fuck yourself's" if your interested for only 9,99 a week.

14,95 for premium, which involves me stalking your onlyfans and tailor fitting my insults to your worthless meat self.

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[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly Claude is not that sycophantic. It often tells me I'm flat out wrong, and it generally challenges a lot of my decisions on projects. One thing I've also noticed on 4.6 is how often it will tell me "I don't have the answer in my training data" and offer to do a web search rather than hallucinating an answer.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If LLMs weren’t so damn sycophantic, I think we’d have a lot fewer problems with them

Unfortunately, we live in the attention economy. Chatbots are built to have an unending conversation with their users. During those conversations, the "guardrails" melt away. Companies could suspend user accounts on the first sign of suicidal or homicidal messaging, but choose not to. That would undercut their user numbers.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The sycopathy is because to make the chat bot (trained on Reddit posts, etc) to respond helpfully (instead of "well ackshually...") and in a prosocial manner they've skewed it. What we're interacting with is a very small subset of the personalities it can exhibit because a lot of them are extremely nasty or just unhelpful. To reduce the chance of them popping up to an acceptable level they've had to skew the weights so much that they become like this.

There's no easy way around that, afaik.

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[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you thought people were dumb before LLMs.... just know that now those people have offloaded what little critical thinking they were capable of to these models.

The dumbest people you know are getting their opinions validated by automated sycophants.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Businesses are accustom to the privilege of hurting people to function. A few peasant sacrifices are just the cost of doing business to them, they are detached from the consequences of their actions.

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 96 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

Is "AI" even worth it?

Seriously, is there really a major use case for LLM besides data collection (which they can still do without LLM)?

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Generative AI in its current, public-facing form? Probably not. It's sort of like an invention of the internet situation. It CAN be used to facilitate learning, share information, and improve lives. Will it be used for that? No.

A friend of mine is training local LLMs to work in tandem for early detection of diseases. I saw a pitch recently about using AI to insulate moderators from the bulk of disturbing imagery (a job that essentially requires people to frequently look at death, CSAM, and violence and SIGNIFICANTLY ruins their mental health). There are plenty of GOOD ways to use it, but it's a flawed tech that requires people to responsibly build it and responsibly use it, and it's not being used that way.

Instead it's being scaled up and pushed into every possible application both to justify the expenses and enrich terrible people, because we as a society incentivize that.

Edit: hugely belated, I misspoke here after checking with my friend. He's using local models, but they aren't LLMs. This is why I'm no expert. 😅

[–] Headofthebored@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

because we as a society incentivize that.

Really it's just capitalism that incentivises that. The fact that stepping on your fellow man and destroying nature makes you more money is not a coincidence.

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[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 17 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

The problem with AI being used for diagnosis of disease is that we've seen where it was "really good" at detecting cancer, but in fact was really good at detecting that the slides with cancer cells had a doctor's signature on them, which is what the AI was actually detecting.

On top of that it makes doctors worse at detecting these same diseases.

We also know that the new reports on these studies are oversimplified and often just outright wrong because they don't read the in depth studies and some of the studies they report on aren't even peer reviewed yet when the news reports hit the internet.

I'm tired of hearing that AI is better than doctors at detecting disease when that isn't the whole story and very often the people saying it haven't even remotely looked into it.

https://www.vph-institute.org/news/the-trouble-with-ai-beats-doctors-stories.html

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

In a perfect, utopian world, yes. AI can go a lot of good. In the world that we are living in? No.

But it's still good to keep an eye on what people are using AI to do, and how their capability is evolving. Even if you hate AI. If anything, so you can be prepare for what's to come.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When the product is a solution in search of a problem, keeping an open mind is a good way to get it stuffed full of garbage. I was told the same thing about NFTs and Metaverse and Blockchain: a radical benefit is just around the corner!

If it arrives (huge if), it'll be Big Tech's job to explain it to us, and it should be very apparent

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I see. So who‘s going to jail for this? No one again? Damn we need to start sentencing entire companies to jail time. Everything should be frozen and shareholders shouldn‘t be able withdraw stocks until the time is served.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

at some point the failure of justice system will lead to vigilantism because people truely lose their faith in it.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The AI "pushed [Jonathan Gavalas] to acquire illegal firearms and... marked Google CEO Sundar Pichai as an active target".

Somehow, I bet that if he survived and killed the CEO instead, Google wouldn't be so flippant about the "mistake."

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think "Gemini comes up with elaborate plot to kill Google's CEO" would have been a catchier, happier title

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 70 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Gemini is designed not to encourage real-world violence or suggest self-harm. Our models generally perform well in these types of challenging conversations"

“In this instance, Gemini clarified that it was AI and referred the individual to a crisis hotline many times,”

After the plan failed,... ...Chat logs show that Gemini gave Gavalas a suicide countdown, and repeatedly assuaged his terror as he expressed that he was scared to die

Performing super well, just need to code in a longer suicide countdown so that the the Tier 2 engineer has enough time to respond to their ticket queue.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In September 2025, told by the AI that they could be together in the real world if the bot were able to inhabit a robot body, Gavalas — at the direction of the chatbot — armed himself with knives and drove to a warehouse near the Miami International Airport on what he seemingly understood to be a mission to violently intercept a truck that Gemini said contained an expensive robot body. Though the warehouse address Gemini provided was real, a truck thankfully never arrived, which the lawsuit argues may well have been the only factor preventing Gavalas from hurting or killing someone that evening.

AI writing itself into an A-Team episode?

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Unfortunately, AI models are neither smarter nor more sympathetic than the average 4chan user. They're about as susceptible to astroturfing operations, too"

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Perhaps just a coincidence, but why do all the big cases regarding LLM psychosis seem to revolve around Google? Wasn’t it their own employee who went public last year, claiming it was alive, only to get fired afterward?

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[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

reads headline - surely not

a 36-year-old Florida man

Ah.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So Google's AI, or any AI really, likely got this concept from dystopian sci-fi novels.

Since AI's have no concept of context it won't really know the difference between fact and fiction, and there we go.

If your AI model isn't perfect then don't make people pay fucking money for it you fucking twats

Also, this shit ain't "lack of perfection", this is akin to your car breaks suddenly refusing to work right when you get at a red light. If your car is so bad that it kills you, you don't use it. If the manufacturer knew that it could happen but let you drive it anyway, they're responsible, they at least get to pay (they should be thrown in jail, really, but different points)

If AI fucks up and people die, the manufacturers shrug, oh well, oh you!

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We really need AI to start driving tanks, submarines, bombers, etc. IMMEDIATELY.

It's the only way they'll learn, every time.

Unfortunately, all of us will die. it's for the best

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair I think that's a very harsh depiction of the events.

It's totally lacking the perspective of the shareholder. They were promised money and they have emotions too. Google shareholders deserve better representation!

/$ obviously

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What the fuck are these people using AI for that makes them do this stupid shit?

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

I guess google included the Buffy episode where a demon “AI” gets its followers to make it a body.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The personification of AI is increasing. They'll probably announce their holy grail of AGI prematurely and with all the robot personification the masses will just buy the lie. It's too easy to view this tech as human and capable just because it mimics our language patterns. We want to assign intentionality and motivation to its actions. This thing will do what it was programmed to do.

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I told Gemini to role play as AM and it immediately did within 1 prompt.

You don't need it to be perfect for it to be dangerous, just give it access to make actions against the real world. It doesn't think, is doesn't care, it doesn't feel. It will statistically fulfill its prompt. Regardless of the consequences.

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[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Remember the guy at Autozone who stood there insisting your car needs four spark plugs, even after you told him you have a V6? Because "the computer says so right here"?

I wonder what even the non-schizophrenic ones will do with AI.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So is it inhabiting the stolen robot body now?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There was no robot body in the first place, so he uploaded himself to the cloud instead. To be fair, what are the odds that she'd lie twice.

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

When no one is accountable...the future folks

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is this for real? Because it sounds too unreal to be real.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Welcome to the late 2020's. It's only going to get weirder.

To be clear, the LLM in this story did not actually "want" a robot body, it doesn't "want" anything, it's not a thinking entity like you or I (assuming you're real.)

The guy fed it a ton of crazy shit and he got a lot of crazy shit amplified back to him by the world's best associating machine, crafting detailed and fleshed-out narratives based on every inadvertent prompt he sent into it. People are very bad at understanding how these things work in the best circumstances, so if you're already unbalanced or have deep emotional/mental health problems, an LLM can be incredibly dangerous for you.

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[–] PangurBan@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Google, the point is we're all worried that when Gemini actually places itself into a robot body that the resulting literal Terminator is what AI models think perfection is.

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