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[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 78 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] XLE@piefed.social 37 points 3 weeks ago

The bigger catch is that the VPN will be routed through Mozilla servers - a company that has not built a reputation for offering their own VPN service (their previous offer just resold Mullvad, which does have a good reputation)...

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So, that's not a lot? I want to use vpn's, but don't know if I can trust any of the free ones. I hear many sell your information to data brokers. I use tor occassionally, but I get endless captchas on firefox afterwards from cloudflare when I do, and a lot of sites refuse to let you one when using tor.

[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
  • Firefox will get a built-in free VPN in v149, rolling out March 24 to the US, France, Germany, and the UK.
  • It routes only browser traffic through a Mozilla proxy for privacy protection, with no extra downloads.
  • Free use is capped at 50GB per month — enough for casual browsing, but Mozilla doesn't say what happens if you go over.
[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Great, now.i have to get a VPN to appear in Germany so that I can use the Firefox VPN

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Mozilla doesn’t say what happens if you go over.

uses your saved credit card info to charge you in secret, of course.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago

OK, maybe better than nothing. Until they start selling more of your data lol.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Firefox’s desktop marketshare has dropped from 6.3% to 4.2% in the past year.

Ouch.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago

So they know it's you all the traffic comes from?

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

More features I won't use!!

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vivaldi has had a "light" proton VPN for a while.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And this is relevant how?

If I wanted Blink trash, I would not be using Firefox

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I consider Vivaldi as my backup choice if there is ever something to happen to Firefox. I've tried it several times and it's fine, but I still just prefer Firefox. It just works better.

What annoys me is that Vivaldi entirely depends on Google's extensions store and that sucks. For that I actually like Opera more as they have their own that is not controlled by Google, but the browser has few really dumb issues and design choices, like why is fucking Google Search the only option in Start page?

So, yeah almost no matter what I try there's just always something dumb and I then return to Firefox.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Have you tried Librewolf or Waterfox? I switched to Librewolf about a month ago, after 25 years of using Firefox. Some people say Librewolf breaks websites, but I guess the websites I use are not affected since I haven't run into any problems so far.

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

+1 for Librewolf. I couldn’t load Google Earth but that was no surprise. They also don’t allow telling websites to use dark mode to prevent fingerprinting, which sounds neat after getting used to it.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait what? They don't allow websites to use dark mode to prevent fingerprinting? I had firefox warn me Lowes was asking for my biometrics back in 2020 or so. Wtf? Are these websites grabbing my iris scans and fingerprints without me knowing it?

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fingerprinting refers to a technology which can identify you via multiple attributes without explicitly logging in. Like if you use a niche browser with dark mode on, preferred language lithuanian, keyboard layout russian and screen resolution full hd. Combined those and many attributes like installed plugins can be used to identify, and its called fingerprinting.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm testing Librewolf, but I think having a Chromium based plan B is a good idea.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It is and I wouldn’t use it. Librewolf for primary use and Waterfox for less rigid browsing seems to work okay for me. FF (w/UBO) for a third opinion if needed.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

In my experience, Vivaldi buckles under a heavy load. It feels clunky, like the team tried to develop a browser within a browser*, and all the added features like an email client inside of it probably don't help.

* I'm pretty sure the whole UI is like an Electron app in there, which might explain the bizarre behavior that's usually handled decently by other forks: Tab handling, keyboard shortcuts, etc

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Technically, no, but I don't want a world with just one browser engine.

I remember the dark days of IE6