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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 26 points 1 hour ago

Good. Put that energy into a moderate parental control education fund or something. The ID gating the net is only for control.

[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 hours ago

Good boys !

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 hours ago

It's about time I flash that onto my pixel 6 pro.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 111 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

"If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it."

Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 20 minutes ago

Lol. The US is not the only market.

Imagine if California then declared a ban on the sale of GrapheneOS compatible phones.

would be fun to see.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 66 points 4 hours ago (8 children)

They can just sell their normal phone. As long as the user is able to run the installer it doesn't really matter.

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[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 131 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names will make similar statements.

[–] TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 27 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification

EDIT
I recommend going to Ageless Linux's site and reading up on their take on the whole issue. They clearly illustrate how poorly thought out the California law is.

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 63 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

I also wonder whether or not grapheneos, or open source Linux OSs in general, will face any repercussions for failing to comply to these regulations due to the relatively low user count.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Sure. Let them be sued on profits made 😂

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 64 points 5 hours ago (34 children)

Hate to say it but systemd, the init system of most Linux distros, already has PRs with maintainer backing to implement DoB recording.

Some people can't kneel fast enough.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

DoB recording, and ID age verification, are two different things though.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

No, they're the same in this context.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The self-important creator of Systemd has personally blocked that PR, if I'm hearing correctly, which would suggest he or his employer Microsoft is all in on it.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

It's an optional field in the userdb JSON object. It's not a policy engine, not an API for apps. We just define the field, so that it's standardized iff people want to store the date there, but it's entirely optional.

"I'm not picking a side" and "this future proofs standardization" is of little comfort, that is seriously suspect. I ought to look to alternatives to SystemD(odge the issue failed).

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 hours ago

He left MS in January

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

That has already been closed

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 hours ago

Maybe this'll take the shine off that wunderkinder mess and people will finally be free to choose something more reliable. I love how RH pushed this beta software so hard and my reboots are now just shite -- unreliable and occasionally ridiculously delayed.

I'll be glad to see the back of that metastatic shitball.

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[–] sphericalcube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 hours ago

I imagine people behind this law are pretty interested in this small but powerful user base. I would just boldly assume that a lot of people responsible for independent software and privacy advocates are using Linux etc. So its a interesting user base for sure. But regulating open source software luckily is pretty much impossible and they wont give up their(our) privacy without a fight. Also, we will see how much the user base will grow when these regulations get tighter.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

They can simply say on their download pages that residents of Brazil and California are not allowed to use their OS.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Genuine question:

is Graphene a "big name"? They talk a big game and are probably one of the biggest alternative phone OSes but all results I can find are putting them at 250k users and less than 2% of the Android market share.

But, more importantly: Do they at all care about US government contracts? Red Had have RHEL. ubuntu have whatever they call their premium OS for enterprise users. Google and Apple are obvious.

[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

Frankly I think they are the largest os vendor that is going to take a principled stance on this.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 3 hours ago

GrapheneOS has a deal with a hardware manufacturer, Motorola. I'd consider this refusal to be a big deal on those grounds alone

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 9 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Big name for government backed hacking tools to list them separately on supported devices / OS cause it's more secure.

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