I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names will make similar statements.
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I also wonder whether or not grapheneos, or open source Linux OSs in general, will face any repercussions for failing to comply to these regulations due to the relatively low user count.
Hate to say it but systemd, the init system of most Linux distros, already has PRs with maintainer backing to implement DoB recording.
Some people can't kneel fast enough.
Which already has a revert commit https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/41179
The self-important creator of Systemd has personally blocked that PR, if I'm hearing correctly, which would suggest he or his employer Microsoft is all in on it.
It's an optional field in the userdb JSON object. It's not a policy engine, not an API for apps. We just define the field, so that it's standardized iff people want to store the date there, but it's entirely optional.
"I'm not picking a side" and "this future proofs standardization" is of little comfort, that is seriously suspect. I ought to look to alternatives to SystemD(odge the issue failed).
So in other words, "Sure we built the people-crushing machines, but we didn't wire them up or turn them on."
He left MS in January
That has already been closed
Maybe this'll take the shine off that wunderkinder mess and people will finally be free to choose something more reliable. I love how RH pushed this beta software so hard and my reboots are now just shite -- unreliable and occasionally ridiculously delayed.
I'll be glad to see the back of that metastatic shitball.
I imagine people behind this law are pretty interested in this small but powerful user base. I would just boldly assume that a lot of people responsible for independent software and privacy advocates are using Linux etc. So its a interesting user base for sure. But regulating open source software luckily is pretty much impossible and they wont give up their(our) privacy without a fight. Also, we will see how much the user base will grow when these regulations get tighter.
Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification
EDIT
I recommend going to Ageless Linux's site and reading up on their take on the whole issue. They clearly illustrate how poorly thought out the California law is.
- Ageless Linux - https://agelesslinux.org/index.html
- Omarchy Linux - https://omarchy.org/
- Adenix GNU/Linux - https://www.adenixgnulinux.org/
- Artix Linux - https://artixlinux.org/
I think this might be the first and only time I'll ever see Omarchy getting upvotes on this site.
Genuine question:
is Graphene a "big name"? They talk a big game and are probably one of the biggest alternative phone OSes but all results I can find are putting them at 250k users and less than 2% of the Android market share.
But, more importantly: Do they at all care about US government contracts? Red Had have RHEL. ubuntu have whatever they call their premium OS for enterprise users. Google and Apple are obvious.
Big name for government backed hacking tools to list them separately on supported devices / OS cause it's more secure.
"If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it."
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
They can just sell their normal phone. As long as the user is able to run the installer it doesn't really matter.
During prohibition era, there was a brick of dried grapes being sold as a nutrition supplement or something like that, but it had a "warning" sticker attached saying specifically not to dissolve it in a specific quantity of water, and if that were to happen, do not let a specific quantity of yeast to fall in it, and especially not to let it sit for 6 weeks, or else you might end up with wine, which is forbidden!
I can see a cheeky sort of company selling a phone with a little warning label attached to it.....
Lol. The US is not the only market.
Imagine if California then declared a ban on the sale of GrapheneOS compatible phones.
would be fun to see.
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
Motorola phones will have both Graphene and Android.
Good. Put that energy into a moderate parental control education fund or something. The ID gating the net is only for control.
This is the only correct response. Middle finger.
CA's law is "per child". I guarantee lawyers are foaming at the mouth to claim every child in CA was hurt so they can line their pockets. CA's public protection laws seem to be for the purposes of enriching lawyers. I'd love to see how many class action suits would get filed if lawyer fees were put under a hard cap.
"lawyers" can't bring charges for this law. Only the AG. If people don't like what the AG is doing then they can just start a recall election.
Good boys !
They have partnered with motorola too right? Basedbasedbasedbased
If the US government bans Graphene, Motorola will drop them in 1/1000th of a heartbeat.
The rest of the planet may have something to say on that front. There IS more to the world than naziland.
I'm gonna have to replace my phone soon since it doesn't receive security updates any more and I was thinking of going for GrapheneOS. What do you guys think about getting a Pixel 10 for that purpose? My second choice would be an iPhone but it's both a lot more expensive and also less privacy respecting.
I was also considering a Fairphone but despite rating the repariability highly, there were too many other cons to the device.
The surviving members of the Epstein community want to know for sure they are chatting with children when they pick their next targets.
I just ordered a (refurbished) pixel 9 pro because of the possibility of graphene.
Otoh everything here requires a phone app to confirm every action...
as it should be