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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Consumer grade.

Because if they try and ban cisco they'll collapse

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 71 points 3 days ago (26 children)

Next up, foreign VPNs and shortwave radios are illegal to use.

Then phone calls are restricted.

Then international mail has to be inspected and censored.

All hail Chairman Trump!

USA USA πŸ‘ŠπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ”₯

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 8 points 3 days ago

https://www.ic3.gov/PSA/2026/PSA260312

Compromised devices already comprise what amounts to a foothold within US network infrastructure that makes attribution of actors and defense of critical infrastructure impossible.

It's actually a really good situation for China since they have access to millions of these compromised devices in police stations, fire stations, hospitals, within critical infrastructure networks etc.

Also, the equivalent of mail censorship is already being done by more subtle means.

The US is more fucked than you know. I just hope the US doesn't piss china off too much. The asymmetric warfare will claim more lives of civilians than combatants.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But in fact USA and Israel are the countries that spy on anyone. I am more concern about USA and Israel spying than from India and China. In this point in history USA and Israel are the enemy of the world.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All countries spy on each other.

I definitely agree about being more worried about the US spying than China though.

The only reasonable stance in 2026 is any government entity is just as much of a threat to an individual's well-being and livelihood as a criminal organization.

No one should be spying on you. Not the CCP. Not the US NSA/CIA, not Mossad, not anyone.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 307 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is just their way of saying they want state sponsored backdoors into all private home networks.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 133 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or, guess what, the next thing will be that all new domestically produced routers will require ID verification before they'll connect.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Please drink verification can

Side note: I thought that meme was from idiocracy, but apparently it's actually from a 4chan greentext and I had made a false memory of it being in the movie πŸ˜…

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 4 days ago

They don't want to, they already have it and just don't want people to be able to avoid it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act

requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have built-in capabilities for targeted surveillance

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Manufactured probable cause.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 3 days ago (16 children)

The excuse that it's for security reasons just immediately falls apart when you get to this part of the article:

The notice from the FCC states that companies can apply for conditional approval for new products from the Department of War or the Department of Homeland Security. However, that requires the businesses to provide a plan for shifting at least some of their manufacturing to the US in order to receive that conditional approval.

So it's fine to supposedly threaten national security if you do some more manufacturing in the US? Uh-huh. How does that balance out exactly?

[–] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

The unwritten part is where Trump gets a free gold plated golf cart or some other stupid shit to sweeten the deal.

Its grift allllll the way down.

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[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 189 points 4 days ago (6 children)

… does America even manufacture routers?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 129 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We don't lol

Electronics manufacture of any kind has been heavily outsourced since at least 1995.

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[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Time to dust off the old US Robotics 14.4k sportster.

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[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I can understand the FTC being involved because trade. But the FCC? Maybe regulatory authority over WiFi? But this seems like massive over reach.

Remember when conservatives claimed to support smaller government?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Remember when conservatives claimed to support smaller government?

I only remember when conservatives lied everytime they opened their mouths.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

How about the bit where they say home routers have to be approved by the DHS or the "Department of War"? This is not normal.

[–] halowpeano@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I mean... "Small government" Republicans were always demonstrably lying, as far back as any of them have been alive. Every one of them just wanted to shift money from things that support people to the pockets of their donors.

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[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that this is a law to:

  1. get bribes or favors from telecom equipment manufacturers.
  2. Create a framework to force backdoors into consumer equipment.
  3. Force users to use ISP provided equipment.
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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 76 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This only applies to routers.

It's not widely known outside the ham radio community, but part of the 2.4GHz wifi band overlaps the 13cm amateur radio band. If you turn off 5GHz wifi and lock the 2.4GHz AP to Channel 1, it qualifies as a ham radio, and can be sold as a ham radio instead of an AP/Router. You do need a ham radio license to operate it as a Ham AP, but you do not need a license to buy a Ham AP.

If the end user wants to turn on 5GHz after the fact, there is not a damn thing the FCC can do about it.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 117 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If foreign made routers pose a severe cybersecurity risk then why would you let the current ones on the market stay? If they were truly a problem you'd remove them from the market, not grandfather them.

But like everything with this capricious administration the real reason they're doing this is probably because someone greased their palms.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

doesn't cover ISP or commercial equipment

The foreign backdoors will stay for critical infrastructure

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 91 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Awesome. So what used to be a $50 router is about to be a $150 router. Great.

And it’s going to suck BALLS

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 88 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Conditional approvals - it's a bribe scheme. Companies can ask for exceptions. Sure they wouldn't Grease any palms...

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Even more isolationism. Knowing how the usa works, they discovered the equipment was set up for spying on their people and they want all of that "spying on their own people" power for themselves.

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[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Gold colored Trump Router incoming

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[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Use openwrt.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unintentionally shutting down ai data centers. Lol, we know this will only be selectively enforced!

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Well it does say consumer-grade. Not sure what the reasoning there is, as backdoors in enterprise equipment would be much worse for national security

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[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Build your own open WRT router or get one of theirs. It's the best way to go and you don't get dragged through the monthly fee wringer for stupid child security or other stuff that is not well designed.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Only US allowed to spy on it's denizens!!1

People not being sure what their router is actually doing is the issue. Instead of hoping for local manufactoring why not mandate against black box software running on the router? Mandate routers come with schematics like all electronics used to do? Promote computer literacy while you're at it.

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Force consumers into US made, AI-laden, crappy hardware full of backdoors for the regime.

[–] homes@piefed.world 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

WHAT

I am really fucking glad I recently bought a high-end router, holy shit

FUUUUUUUUCK

[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First routers, then foreign operating systems, then cars…

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[–] preschool236@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

i dont even know how this is going to work out in practice - who's going to start making routers in the US?

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You can always get your own non-router hardware of significantly higher quality and run PFSense or similar for an end result that blows any consumer grade router out of the water. Unless they start banning all PCs this is the better way to go anyway.

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