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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, here I was thinking that Steam Machine had priced itself out of the market, but it sounds like it's gonna end up having parity with PS6 anyhow

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Next-gen consoles are rumored to be around a 5080 in terms of performance. With 32GB of unified ram, $1000 would be a good deal for that level of performance. If Microsoft added the ability to run windows on it, that would be a pretty compelling package.

Hopefully things will get better, but with ram prices where they are the steam machine would probably need to be $900 if it launched today without being subsidized by valve and is around the performance of a base PS5.

I hate to say it but consoles may be the better deal next-gen.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

You speak with an awful lot of authority for someone who is just making stuff up.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I thought nobody knows the specs for it yet?

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These are the rumored specs according to moore’s law is dead. Of course things could change or he could have gotten misinformation.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

MLID has <50% accuracy IIRC, so everything to be taken with a spoonful of salt. Not saying it's definitely wrong, of course. He's gotten things right sometimes too.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Didnt xbox say they are quitting the hardware side of things?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago

No, they said it would run PC games.

Whether that means Steam remains to be seen.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] noname_no_worries@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Pc parts aren't cheap either...

[–] utjebe@reddthat.com 10 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

However your options are much better when you're building a PC with a $1000 budget.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 hours ago

Half of that will go towards RAM

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

1000 for a PC? Are you mad? With the prices going up it would be miracle to pay 1000, if you find ram or cheap HDD/SSD.

[–] utjebe@reddthat.com 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

Hmm let's see..

  • Mobo - some B650 - 100 EUR
  • CPU - Ryzen 8700G - 250 EUR
  • RAM - 16G - 200 EUR
  • PSU + Case + Mouse + Keyboard - 150 EUR
  • SSD 1 Tb 150 EUR

Total 850 EUR and you are left with 150-200 for games or hdd or rainbow cables if you are into that stuff.

Needless to say SSD and RAM prices suck.

Note: $1000 + 20% VAT is roughly 1050 EUR

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I don‘t think people who can‘t cough up 1000 bucks for a console will cough them up for a PC. They just don‘t have that kinda money to spend on videogames. It‘ll lead to people stickin with what they have and those who don‘t have anything (especially kids) will play games on their phones or doomscroll all day. So the whole next gen might be crossgen and/or even tank the industry in general. That‘s my prediction.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

$999 "is not impossible"

At that price, just buy or build a fucking computer already.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 hours ago

Not anymore. Same thing's driving prices on both sides.

Ram is short Storage is short Video ram is shorter

The newest consoles outside the switch are just pc's with different opperating systems.

I bet the next big thing to be released is a ps6-lite for $399 that's just a terminal with a $50 a month rental fee to a cloud gaming provider, game licenses not included.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They know that by the time they release, a gaming pc will cost twice as much.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Can't slowly upgrade a PS5 into a PS6 though.

You can on PC.

[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

We must be reaching a plateau in terms of generational leaps in between consoles. Though I love the PS5 it's not a huge jump from PS4, just slightly better graphics and better frame rates. As things stand, I can't see a need to upgrade for years. PS5 it's only 6 years old. It's easily got another 6, maybe 10 years in it.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I've been complaining that the consoles and graphical fidelity have been seeing diminishing returns since the PS3 / Xbox 360. At this point, we're just pushing way more power for minimal improvements. It's stupid.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago

It's amazing to see what they squeezed out of the PS3 and Xbox 360 towards the end of their life compared to the launch titles. It feels like there was not much of an improvement over the life span of the PS4. The PS5 has ray tracing, but apart from that it doesn't look much different from the PS4. I suppose framerates are higher now.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah for sure, "better" from here on out will have to involve better features.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 141 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the Gabecube will launch with a "console price" after all.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm kinda hoping valve waits for component costs to calm down before releasing it - otherwise I could see the price making it DOA.

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[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

PS5 was too much day one at £400 and it's only gone up since. What happened to the days of sub-£200 consoles later in their lifespan?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (7 children)
[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

We're also losing the ability to shrink our transistors at this point, so the things that made old tech cheaper before don't really apply anymore.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 81 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

There's literally enough in my PC backlog for the rest of my life probably, don't need another new console, game or graphics card, ever.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 70 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I pray for immaculate memtests on us all for all eternity.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 27 points 21 hours ago

Seriously, anything after 2015 has perfect graphics, I don't need slightly more realistic hair or whatever. Even a lot of 2010 is enjoyable. And this is only about graphics quality. For gameplay, story etc, you know shit actually matters, there already is way more than I can play.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

As a long time PS customer, the Steam Deck has been probably the smartest/luckiest impulse purchase I’ve made. I used to not have a PC backlog, but now I own a PC port of pretty much all my favorite console games PS4 and backwards, among others, and the majority of those purchases have fallen under the “might-as-well-at-that-price” category of expense. I’ve been playing on Deck nearly every day since I got it and have only scratched the surface of library I’ve built since buying it.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“might-as-well-at-that-price”

The reason I have 130 games installed on my Steam Deck. My backlog has gotten absurd to the point of comedy. I'm set for years.

[–] Minnels@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

This year I try to stop this. Went 2 months without buying a single game. I have an absurd amount of games and the list of games i actually want to play is so large it would still take years to complete.

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[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 17 hours ago

I guess it’s finally time to tackle my backlog.

Personally I don’t need better graphics, PS4/PS5 level is already great. Developers can do pretty much everything they can imagine.

I’m for cheaper, more accessible hardware.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 62 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (6 children)

Haha ok buddy, can't wait to see you puzzling about why millennials hate game consoles or whatever when launch sales numbers are rightly in the shitter

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[–] gasgiant@lemmy.ml 27 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This is becoming my default position for so many things now it's ridiculous.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That'd be quite high compared to historical inflation-adjusted launch prices.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/game-console-launch-prices-adjusted-for-inflation-1975-2024/

Game Console Launch Prices Adjusted for Inflation (1975-2024)

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/995e4917-5bb0-4dee-8b7d-f43e8ef21d62.webp

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Weren't Saturn and PS1 the same price at release? Or am I misremembering

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I wonder who they're trying to sell these to. Back in 2002 the Xbox cost 480e and it was already very expensive. The 360 was cheaper at release already (400e). Fast forward 25 years, salaries are the same and hardware costs... double? The math doesn't work out

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

I mean…those are not prices the market will pay so I guess rip console market?

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago

My Xbox One was not worth $500 at all, ever during its lifespan. My Series X is solely a 360 Pro. I think I'm done with these. How the mighty have fallen.

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