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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

Maybe some day they will ten a profit

[–] thoralf@discuss.familie-will.at 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

20 years ago Atlassian was a dynamic and pretty cool company.
JIRA was fun to use and in Confluence you could edit pages in markup directly.

It's gone downhill ever since.

Now Atlassian is just another slop fest and I hope that people finally leave this crap behind.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 minutes ago

Funny, I remember first using Atlassian almost 20 years ago and finding both JIRA and Confluence amateurish, inconsistent dog's breakfasts. It's a bad idea to let your business IT people whoose your dev tools.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago

My Jiras are going to train the clanker wrong. And not on purpose, they are just blank descriptions with due dates that are bookmarks for projects. Clankers can't even handle sarcasm, good luck with inference of unprovided details.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 51 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah so this isn’t gonna fly in any way, shape, or form. All of that will be cited by companies who are users as trade secrets and proprietary internal documentation. This is a great way for them to force their userbase away from their products.

So, yeah… bold move, cotton. Let’s see how it plays out.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 23 points 12 hours ago

Especially for a glorified ticketing system and wiki. There are multiple open source options that work just as well... and don't spy on you. May I suggest BugZilla and TWiki?

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing they forced everyone into their cloud service and EoL'd on-prem installs so they now have a nice captive user base to abuse 🙃

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Job security for Platform Engineers go brrrrrrrrrt!

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And here I thought Jira couldn't possibly be worse than it already was.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

ever had to use servicenow?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 minutes ago

ServiceNow is a fairly correct embodiment of ITIL principles. And ITIL is shit, based on the false assumption that IT service is a cost center and conservation of service-staff resource always takes precedence over productivity and customer satisfaction.

Its internal model of IT services and how they relate to business functions is also defective and unmaintainable.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I have. I quit after it was decided our department should migrate to it. Half a year later I heard everything is on fire and the SNow migration was paused indefinitely.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

SNOW is a beast of a platform that requires a team of skilled engineers to set up properly. 90% of companies don't hire those engineers and then do a surprisedPikachu.jpg when everything's on fire.

But I did work at a company that had those engineers once, and I'm still in awe at how excellent that system can be.

[–] mrbn@lemmy.ca 71 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What a trash company (Atlassian)

[–] Naich@piefed.world 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I have to use Jira at work. It's fucking awful.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait until your company shuffles to the next top 3 platforms over the next few years and eventually settles on some shitty Microsoft product because the execs got a handyJ.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 2 points 2 hours ago

They are already sucking at Microslop's AI-encrusted teat. It's a major UK university, and there used to be a mix of systems, with a lot of really good functional software written in-house. Over the past decade, as they have been retired, they were replaced with MS-based turd-rolled-in-glitter ecosystems that drive me up the wall. The old stuff wasn't pretty, but it worked and did all you needed and no more. It now feels like some sort of Rube Goldberg machine with fireworks.

[–] hendu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] dtrain@lemmy.world 44 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I only use AI to write my Jira stories and Confluence wiki pages, so jokes on them

Saaaaame lol

[–] chrash0@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

guaranteed any company worth more than a handful of salt does not want this. my company would throw a library of books at them for using data in any way that isn’t 100% explicit. for the longest time they blocked me from running Ollama on my laptop cuz the lawyers didn’t understand how neural networks work and thought i was exfiltrating data.

this is only going to hurt companies that probably shouldn’t be using Atlassian products anyway (ie any company with more agility than a boomer era corporate dinosaur)

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

guaranteed any company worth more than a handful of salt does not want this. my company would throw a library of books at them for using data in any way that isn’t 100% explicit.

The issue with this is that it puts the onus of social responsibility on the free market. We know that the market is largely apathetic and uninformed.

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Oh, piss off with this bs...

[–] Bonje@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Enterprise users can opt-out. They just did the same thing Microslop did with GitHub.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 8 points 12 hours ago

Just like the advertising model. Pay us with subscription money, or pay us with all the data we can scrape from you.

[–] o_oli@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

I suppose these things have to be opt-out because if they were opt-in then literally nobody would do it. Which is quite telling really isn't it lol

[–] burt@programming.dev 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen some trash human written stories and confluence pages. it is going to hilarious to the the slop generated based on those.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As opposed to what is otherwise one of the LLMs largest databases, Reddit? 😅

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The best part about using reddit is that LLMs don't understand sarcasm or spamming meme, which are a significant portion of reddit comments. There are so many John Backflip level trolling memes out there.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 minutes ago

And a huge proportion of Reddit content is bot-generated, so it's bots training LLMs: the Inhuman Centipede.

I just wish that malignant bubble would burst already.