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[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Banafa says he urges his students to use AI.

“Don’t be left behind. I mean, if you see any kind of new tools in AI, any new projects by the big name, by OpenAI or Google, go and learn it. Get certifications, take classes that would make you in the front of the line when it comes to hiring,” he said.

You can smell the misguided desperation from the person quoted through the screen.

They're laying off 10% of the workforce and simultaneously rewarding employees who waste as many AI resources as possible, including the one employee who burned $1.4 million in tokens in one month.

It's a contest in tech right now who can signal the hardest that they're "AI-first," and Zuck continues to show his lack of imagination and independent thought by lighting 10% of the company on fire to make the most smoke in a valley already choking on its own smoldering fumes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if the whole idea of having employees use AI as much as possible wasn't stupid in and of itself tracking token usage is a terrible way to do it.

It's like trying to work out how much work has been done in a warehouse by tracking employees calories, sure the people who've burnt more calories have probably done more work but it's not one to one equivalency.

I can mess around with an AI for an hour using thousands of tokens up and produce nothing tangible at the end. If I'm going back and forth trying to get an AI to write a piece of code and that takes me an hour to get a result that I could have written myself in 15 minutes, then I'm not being productive. But I sure as hell used up a lot of tokens.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

This exactly. Tech employees are metric hacking to look good to AI-obsessed bosses, who are too clueless to understand that maybe, just maybe, employees want promo more than they want AI to change the world and take their jobs.

This guy was almost certainly using a swarm of AI agents to make the token burn more efficient.

Damn. I wish I could waste over a million dollars and have my employer see it as a good thing.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have acquaintances at Meta and they literally waste tokens on bullshit tasks. They have like 10 agents running simultaneously doing some elaborate task that takes a long time. You can't tell me this is more productive or efficient than doing actual work. Even if half of these tasks are somewhat useful and related to your project.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, second-hand experience is the same, it's a race to find the most efficient way to light money on fire.

I suppose Zuckerberg is too busy being an alien to check his own math on AI. Like the rest of the tech broligarchs, he just assumes he is right, and any pushback is just evidence that he's "disrupting" which also reassures him he's right.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I really don't get this quantity-first approach. If you wanted to actually transform the world with tech in a way it's not just superficial, you'd create task forces that sit together with specialist in each field of medical, construction, logistics, finance etc. give them 2 years to build prototypes and action plans. Then bet on the N most promising applications, spin them off as separate companies with premium access to your most advanced AI models and vertically integrate them into their workflows.

This would actually, sustainably achieve a foothold into these industries, disrupt and transform them long term.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, exactly. And to explain why that bottom-up value-build didn't happen, I need to go on a tangent about information-overload hypercapitalism.

Before ChatGPT first made waves, there was an initial round of actual "visionaries" who saw AI potential and seeded it. Once there was a demonstrated cool tech demo, the hype cycle started as normal, but unlike in prior years, the story was too big to be contained by any rational limit, and every wall street and silicon valley bro had been primed with years of watching Musk, Jobs, Gates, Balmer, and Zuckerberg, and there are probably literally millions of them with aspiring billionaire god complexes. They sold themselves and each other on this being a technology that could do everything, and realized that by intensifying others' wild plans, they would give credibility to their own.

This feedback loop became self-reinforcing, until hyperscalers were creating trillion-dollar plans that objectively were and are insane, but everyone just kind of agreed were not insane out of self-interest. That simultaneously cut off the possibility of bottom-up innovation, because now everyone's yacht and LA mansion and third vacation island home depended on the tech doing everything short of change your baby's diaper.

VC bought and funded the hype for a long time, but the "show me you can make money window" started shrinking from the usual years to months to weeks, and now AI startups aren't even getting in on it anymore and even OpenAI is discontinuing products to save compute. Now, major companies are desperate to prove their hundreds of billions of dollars in spending was worth anything at all.

Which means, the rational, normal bottom-up approach you outlined can't work anymore. There's no time, and too much money on the line.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

If you wanted to actually transform the world with tech in a way it's not just superficial, you'd create task forces that sit together with specialist in each field of medical, construction, logistics, finance etc. give them 2 years to build prototypes and action plans.

I suspect they tried that, but specialists expect to be paid for their time, and expect their work to benefit the planet. Both seem to be hard stop deal breakers for the modern tech bro.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah the thing that pro-ai zealots don’t get is that if they’re right and AI is the future, then being left behind is ultimately not up to you. The point of AI is to leave workers behind. Embracing it doesn’t do anything to save you, it just accelerates the end of your own job.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yet somehow, Facebook still managed to transfer an eye watering $50bn to capitalists in 2025 through dividends and buybacks. That is the equivalent of $633,639/employee. Tech workers need to unionize!

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's kind of sad in hindsight. I remember around 8-10 years ago or so a conversation about unionization amongst programmers came up and almost universally the response was "lol why would I ever unionize? Just hop companies."

Welp.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It was always stupid do dismiss unions.

The software engineering was in a stupid bubble just waiting to be popped.

But no one cared, since they got paid so much.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago

they are also pay very high enough to not unionize,

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tech workers are labor aristocracy, so collaboration with capitalists is rampant. Even here on Lemmy, in the tech comms you will find a higher than average rate of capitalist apologism.

But as the market adjusts they will be exploited just like the rest of workforce. This was already the case with some sectors, like videogames, which were more exploited than others. When there is a hefty supply of workers and a stable 5% unemployed, ready to accept any conditions, those $200k+ incomes will be a distant memory.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Shouldn't have gone all in on the Metaverse, eh, Fuckerburg?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 32 points 3 weeks ago

Don't worry, they've definitely hitched their horse on the right Next Big Thing this time!

[–] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

He didn't and doesn't care.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

zuckerborg thought he could download the thoughts of humans into his robot body, but he doesnt have the technology to do so.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Zuckerberg: If I burn all our fossil fuels and lay off thousands more employees, then finally AI will teach me what humans call love.

[–] speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lay off 100% and be done with it. Fuck Zuck and his employee stooges.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I don't understand how Facebook has so many employees. What do they do, what does their standard day look like.

If I don't show up to my job there's loads of tasks that wouldn't get done but Facebook is a website, it can't honestly need so many employees especially when they never really change anything.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I don’t mean this in a way that suggests Facebook is culturally important and good in any fashion, but Facebook does a LOT of different things and in fact is a multitude of websites and features in a trench coat. Whether they are bloated with employees or not, it makes perfect sense for Facebook to have a metric ton of employees. Also it’s not just Facebook, it’s Meta as a company so there are plenty of people working there who have nothing to do with the website.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

They change the flavors in the frozen yogurt kombucha machine.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Meetings and meetings about how to enshittificate more (example: premium subscription for WhatsApp is now already in A/B testing phase) and find a way to skirt laws and regulations

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

is there a big seven lay off tracking website ?

because i'm pretty sure they have laid off 123% in the last 13 months

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not including the cuts mentioned here, it looks like meta has reduced the number of employees by about 20% so far compared to last years highest count.

The other have seemingly kept hiring so their staff cuts have not shown in official numbers as far as I can tell. source

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There was this site making the rounds a few years ago and it still seems updated: https://layoffs.fyi/

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's the stuff. Thank you.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Couldn't they just fire zuck, since he's made himself redundant? I bet that's a hell of a lot greater decrease in expenditure than 10% of the staff...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 3 weeks ago

No AI could replicate zuckerberg's robotic nature.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

He's majority shareholder or has some trick to never be dethroned.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Don't know if they can. If I'm recalling correctly he holds enough Class B shares to retain supermajority voting power.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Only 10%? earnings must be increasing faster than ever.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Their AI must be shit if they can only lay off 10%.

A good AI would let you lay off at least 50%

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes. 10% is a rookie CEO number.

Zuck needs to AI harder. If they're so sure they don't need expert help, why not prove it?

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Of course it is:

[–] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean I'm sorry but I am not going to cry of you work at Meta.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

I've been there, (not exactly but in a similar situation) it's just something to stick on your resume. People get massively over excited if they hear you worked at one of the big tech companies. The automatically assume that everyone who works there is a super genius. This even works for Microsoft employees.

This happens because recruiters never know anything about the industry that they're recruiting for, so they're just looking for easy hints and "worked at Meta" is a good, if not particularly necessarily accurate, hint that this person knows what they're talking about.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Incoming record earnings and board remunerations!

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago

More programmers for tech co-ops and open-source projects.

I mean sure, it won't cover these people's mortgages or probably even healthcare. That sucks, it really does. But let's starve big tech of the expertise that they so obviously disdain, and contribute our time and energy to building better alternatives.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Meta is one company that I morally wouldn’t work for UNLESS they paid me 3x what I make now. One of my old managers just jumped to meta and is going to be making 2.8x what I make. I could suffer it for 2-4 years to buy and pay off a house…

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

I thought about it before (a Meta recruiter contacted me a couple years ago). The expected total compensation was insane. But, I would've likely had to move, I despise the company, and they were already doing stupid layoffs back then too, so decided not to move forward.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

i have "being laid off" PTSD or something because every time i see a headline like this i say FUCK

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