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[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Will they care / understand about false positives?

Not likely.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 62 points 1 month ago

Feature, not bug.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As long as they kill p. of c., it'll be deemed legal 🫡🤢

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago

Their "facial recognition" ends up just being a binary switch on a light detector

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Took me waaaaay longer than it should have to realize "p. of c." means "people of color".

Still haven't figured out if you're censoring it, or if you think p. of c. is a faster way to abbriviate it.

Either way, that "shorthand" is stupid, and you should just write it out.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Folks who work in social justice will know the acronym "POC" but "p. of c." I don't usually encounter.

Are we sure it's not "prince of caspian?"

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Naw, it's price of coffee. It's way too high and needs to be brought down.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Remember 20 years ago when Wikileaks was telling us about all the false positives swept up in the War on Terror dragnet?

Both Bush and Obama got reelected. No one at the federal level gives a shit.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Targets for what???? Being brown? They need AI to confirm their racism? Was the old peter griffin white/not white chart not doing it for them anymore???

[–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can't be called a racist if a machine decides it for you, same as if a drone does the killing, it mean you can't get convicted for murder even if you hit button to fire

/s

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure that's what it will be: proprietary and questionable algorithms to identify anyone that might not be a 3+ generation American of European origin.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And to shove justification off to a black box. Awful hard to put an algorithm on trial.

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They're gonna fall back on the algo being racist and not the storm troopers with the nazi tattoos, those guys are just doing what the AI tells them.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It'll use AI and even if you have your passport and birth certificate on you, proving they're wrong, you'll be in El Salvador before you can plead your case.

i think that's already the case

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 month ago

Disagree. What's further than hell?

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Nah they are going to El Salvador.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Time to carry portable EMPs

… uhhh how do I make one?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

You don't need a portable EMP.

All you need is basic KN95 mask and a hoodie. Or you can invest in sunglasses or ID-blocking eyeglasses, like IDGuard from Zenni. The point is to have your features covered as much as is feasible. When I go to a protest I wear a costume that covers my whole head and a jumpsuit.

You should have a KN95 on anyway if you're going out among people.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

You should know facial recognition software is optimized to defeat KN95 masks specifically

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What do you think what you posted even means? covering most of what it is using to identify is already going to make it drastically more difficult to match

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Notably the risks aren't simply that this will identify the undocumented its that it will provide a pretext to disappear almost anyone who isn't white.

The question is does any given non-white person look enough like one of over 10M people to get falsely flagged given agents a pretext to remove almost anyone they stop. Facial recognition of one person against a large enough database will almost always provide at least on possible match this is especially true if it matches against possible aliens and not against possibly aliens and citizens. EG a query of both will likely turn up Betty Sue Smith is herself and maybe a possible match with Known Deportable but a search against only aliens may return only Known Deportable with agents dismissing any claim by Betty that her ID must be fake.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it will provide a pretext to disappear almost anyone who isn't white.

Pretty sure you don't need a.i. glasses to figure out what colour someone is.

[–] Canigou@jlai.lu 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No but you can say "The AI told me to detain them" and not take any responsibility. "I was just answering orders" is sadly too common of an excuse in dooing the worst things...

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The American people should wear masks and sun glasses when out.

[–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Head to toe body covering… wait…

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Time to get your Insane Clown Posse makeup working.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was thinking more Jokerz, but honestly ICP is cool by me. Not really my thing, but they've always been anti-fash and after Violent J's daughter got into the furry fandom and formed an alliance, they're solid in my book.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

I think there was an article a while back about how juggalo makeup is actually very effective at blocking facial recognition

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[–] msage@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago

Always has been.

Cameras are THE tools for surveilance, and adding more everywhere has always had only one goal.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Wrong. The glasses will misidentify in real time.

The goal is to "accidentally" arrest and deport US citizens.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone should be wearing a Luigi mask anyway.

Like in V for Vendetta, but Saint Luigi instead.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Look hard enough, or message the sellers and you can get Luigi.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why bother they just target random people anyway. I have never seen any indication that their behaviour is in any way directed.

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The point is to absolve the human behind the arrest from responsibility. "The system" gets to do the decision making, then the human can't be responsible for making a mistake and arresting the wrong person.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So we are doing “just following orders” again?

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You guys have to install using fake mustaches/nose/glasses thing as a new trend... idk how do you call this

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Groucho glasses.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not a problem, really. They wear masks? So do I.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 1 month ago

Is this like how we planned to nuke the moon in the '50s to scare the Russians?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

how convenient, the android zuckeborg has just deployed these glasses for those purposes.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

The glasses don't have to work, they just need "plausible" excuses for picking up anyone who catches their fancy. $1,500 a head, be it man, child, or woman.

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