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Edit: Also please tell me if a meme is even allowed as the thumbnail for the post in this community - just feels like it gets some of my current desperation across :D

Since the last time I posted here sharing my new home server, I've gotten a little more acquainted with the services I'm using. After getting acquisition of shows and movies sorted, I ventured into music (streaming).

As many here, I'm used to using streaming services for music, ie. Spotify or YouTube Music. Naturally, I tried a similar approach by setting up my Arr stack to feed its music into Jellyfin where the music is picked up by Symfonium. I tried it out for a couple days and liked it quite a bit since it keeps my phone clean of "unnecessary" data but I still retain access to music. Unfortunately, the way I acquire my music limits my selection quite a bit unless I venture into torrenting, which I'd prefer not to. So unless I figure out a safe way to torrent on my server, I'm stuck with getting access to a very limited selection of artists and albums.

In addition to that limitation, there's also the files formats of the music. Most of the music I've downloaded was only available in FLAC, which is awesome if you've got the bandwidth and data plan for playback, but for me it means that I spend 3GB of data for a day of streaming music which is just not sustainable.

In comparison, I can set up a Revanced version of Spotify in addition to my Revanced YT Music to get access to all the music I could want. Unfortunately, that comes with the caveat of still being tied to the companies I'm trying to get rid of - albeit not financially anymore, but I'm still sharing my data.

Ultimately, I'm not sure what to do. What I love about self-hosting is the independence from all the companies we're being fucked over by in all kinds of imaginable ways. But if it's free, outside my sharing data with them, can I really compete?

I'd be interested in hearing your opinions and thoughts on this. How did you solve music streaming with your build?

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

By the way if you want a really cheap and easy setup for the time being while you figure out jellyfin/navidrome and docker and all that.

Symfonium app can run from a google drive that you can spin up for free and throw some music into. And then if you end up self hosting you can just point it to your server.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

I've got a server set up already and am using Symfonium but thanks for the suggestion regardless :)

[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Can you just point it at a shared network directory too?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It says it supports network shared folders or NAS that use SMB or webdav.... So yeah should.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Good to know. Could be helpful setting up basic, low-maintenance servers for family members.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it has become my go to for recommending to people with struggles with Spotify.

Plus if they ever purchased albums through amazon they have all the MP3 files anyways available to download and I have them throw the files in a drive.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Does it display album art? I thought that came from the server software. Or can symphounium source that?

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Por qué no los dos?

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 10 hours ago

i selfhost the music collection i own on LPs, to replace spotify/yt music i use Archivetune

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I use Tidal and Bandcamp

I'm hearing great things about Quobuz

Bandcamp and Quobuz allow you to buy and download music

And I have to mention, as I do in any thread like this: If you self-host music you bought you're a friend to me. If you pirate from billionaires, I don't care. If you pirate from small bands, stop it.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Self host, takes less time then you think after the initial library build. Easy to do in a weekend. If you have some money to spend on music then buy music from the artists you love. Can all be in one place, none of this exclusive garbage, quality as high as you want, can rip music that’s never been released digitally, and I think most importantly - access to your music library without an algorithm telling you what to listen to. You’ll be surprised how your listening habits change and how well you know your music after jumping off the engagement treadmill.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I've mostly gone with pirating. I've built a massive library of flac songs, as for when I'm outside I can't stream cause I'm stuck with ADSL, but I usually keep some albums I'm into on my phone and I also use Grayjay to discover new music.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 109 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Leeching off corporations' infrastructures for free is a noble endeavor and everyone should do it.

[–] morto@piefed.social 61 points 2 days ago

Network traffic, unique accesses, etc are metrics used by investors and media to measure their success, so we're still contributing to it, and also, we're preventing alternatives from gaining more fame, so getting rid of corporations should always be the preferred path

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
DNS Domain Name Service/System
NAS Network-Attached Storage
SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native
VPN Virtual Private Network
VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)

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Mp3 collections never stopped being cool, you just have to invest some time into it

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Use Navidrome for music and transcode mp3 streaming. Done and dusted.

That's a different problem than access to music which I'll leave up to you. But I'll note that music exists out of the sphere of corporate dominance. And by that I mean, artists that self publish.

I find it interesting how quickly one abandons the principle struggle central to the meme on this post. Like, "I use Linux and don't give corporations a dime but I LOVE Jay-z"

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen so many people suggest that that I'm honestly ashamed I just didn't know Jellyfin and Navidrome could do that. I guess the file sizes are sorted then.

The thing is, what I'm using is good shows and movies but music isn't that much of a focus. Maybe if I used a different indexer that's "dedicated" to music, that'd not be a problem. So that leaves me with torrenting or Soulseek, the former of which I have experience with, but it's unsafe unless you use a VPN, and the latter of which I don't and don't know how to set up on my server (yet) because I don't know how Docker, containers and whatnot work. CasaOS is very user-friendly like that, but I don't really know how to import or deploy programs in general. That's what made even make the post in the first palfe because I felt stuck, not knowing how to proceed now. Falling back to year-long habits is just easier instead of overcoming challenges and growing with them is the gist of it.

I agree. I guess growing up in capitalism, it's justdifficult to outright abandon every single habit you've built up overnight. It takes time and patience and as long you're aware of it and try to move in a good direction, that's good enough for me.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

-arr stack is your friend. Read up on VPN kill switch. Isolate via docker networking. Run unbound DNS resolvers with dnssec.

What time is it? Key question of the movement

[–] verrymay@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (2 children)

spotify and google will figure out a way to block modded apps eventually.

nobody can take your home server and its content away from you

[–] Sisyphe@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Bum music off of Spotify and save up for a home server in the meantime, got it.

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[–] morto@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In a dystopic future, somewhere...

Chilling out listening to some music
BANG!
"Put your hands up! No sudden moves!"
"But, but..."
"We tracked down self-hosting activities, and we're confiscating everything and taking you to jail"

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't use revanced. The backbone of the dev team moved to morphs now, and so do other modders that used to dev using revanced.

https://morphe.software/

There was a bunch of drama that's worthy for Lemmy but stuck in reddit that I don't care to bring here.

It got easier to patch things in some ways, but having known how to do it "the complex way" with vanced and revanced before I feel like some is lost in translation.

But overall it's a lot better with morphe, the patches against megacorps efforts to block access comes quicker than revanced, and the YouTube minimum app requirement now moved up

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Alright, I'll give this a shot. What's the harm in keep using Revanced, I'm wondering tho? Vulnerabilities that may not be patched out? Or is it just about the lack of features/overall functionality if new patches are rolled out slower/not at all?

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From what I can see in both subreddits, it's mostly buggy and failed patching as far as I can see for those sticking with revanced.

I'm unsure on vulnerabilities but if the recommended app version is old enough or not working on bypassing using newer versions, I'm sure is not good.

Also I forgot to mention this previously but in revanced aubreddit the mention of morphe is a subreddit bannable offence. At least that's what the morphe fans are saying. Personally the ones egging on revanced is childish but I can and can't properly vouch.

A bit of my history of how I knew all these

I started to use URV (I think that stands for universal revanced) because that took base revanced manager and added ways to easily use different patch repos. Back then it's because I was still patching xitter app. So I already wasn't using the revanced manager for a few weeks but still use their repo on that URV.

Then I saw a weird post in revanced sub about some dev tiff. A month from that post I somehow got to see a morphe post in the revanced sub so I tried morphe and stuck around a bit in morphe's sub. That's how I know what happened so I decided to trust the morphe guys.

Technical wise I just have no idea how differing they are. I just stick with the results I personally get.

Edit: oh my the tone of my two comments is night and day to me lol

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the detailed write-up. So far, I can't tell there's much of a difference outside the limited amount of apps you can patch - Revanced had a lot more to offer. Functionality-wise, they apps themselves seem identical, so I don't really care which I use.

Alsp no worries about the tone of yours comments - came off fine :) and thanks again for the suggestion

[–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Grayjay is a nice alternative.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess Revanced and by extension Morphe offer that too as you get access to the perks of YT Premium and can just download the music you want to listen to offline. Sure, it's still tied to the app itself and the jailbreak working but so is Grayjay, isn't it?

Grayjay is more like a "insert any plugin from any website and we'll make it work" app. You just enter your YouTube/Twitch/Kick/SoundCloud/Crunchyroll/Bilibili account and boom, no ads, full anonymity, and download whatever you want.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

I went with jellyfin. Got 10 gigs free from box and Mount it with rclone.

If you have less than 10 GB of music, this is best. If you have TB of music, maybe not

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Soulseek has far more music on it than you can typically find on free public torrent sites.

Just a heads up.

[–] duckshuffgoose@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i started with lidarr and very, very quickly stripped that our for just slskd

[–] HumbleBragger@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same here. Lidarr had trouble finding most of the stuff I was looking for. I wish I had some kind of automation like the are stack for slskd. Maybe I try soularr that promises that, whenever I feel like exploring this part of the sea.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tubiferry plugin for lidarr.

[–] HumbleBragger@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Wow that seems way easier and feature richier than the other service I was looking into. Definitely gonna try that one! Thanks

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wrote an application which runs on my server and monitors my favorites on Tidal/Deezer/Qobuz. It downloads them in bulk whenever I have a premium account with one of them. Usually I purchase a month of premium every few months, at which point I get nice clean FLACs for local use.

The FLACs are moved to Jellyfin and I stream them using Finamp, which also supports transcoding, so I keep 128 kbps Opus files for offline playback and stream the raw FLAC files when bandwidth is no concern.

I have amassed a huge music library over the last decades, so even if all streaming websites go under tomorrow, I have enough music locally to last me a lifetime.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

If anyone doesn't want to write their own software, Lidarr has auto import from lists. You can add your playlists from Spotify and last.FM and it will watch them and automatically download the songs from the lists. There is no Tidal, or Deezer option though which feels like a ball drop by the Lidarr devs.

[–] enkille@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

i also only download flac files, and i keep them in my ~/music/lossless directory. i use picard to organize that, and wrote a bash script to keep a synchronized opus format copy in ~/music/lossy. on my phone i use termux/ssh to rsync the lossy files to my phone and avoid streaming altogether. for reference, my lossless directory is 221gb, and lossy is 19gb.

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

why not both?

Bought a home server, threw at it an HDD and installed jellyfin. Now I buy my music from bandcamp or rip my own cds (yup, I'm buying cd's back too) and haven't logged to spotify ever since.

Can't be happier.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I do both.

The music I like is in my collection. I pay for it where I can, but I'll be honest some of it is pirated because I just can't buy it anywhere.

I also use Opentune to listen to YouTube music without logging in to stream stuff like "lofi chillhop beats".

I recently saw around here a music discovery service (self-hosted) I might try. Can't remember the name...

[–] fozid@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ive been trying to get rid of YouTube for over a year now, but haven't found a solution im happy with so still sticking with revanced YouTube.

Got rid of Spotify 2 years ago and self host navidrome and it's perfect for me. I use dsub2000 on my android and feishin on my Linux desktop pc.

I'm UK based, so fairly strict internet laws and I torrent to supplement my owned media. I don't use flac, I'm sure if I tried I could hear the difference from 192kbit MP3, but honestly I don't care. 192kbit or similar mp3's are more than good enough for me.

Self hosting costs money. Hardware setup initially is expensive, both in money and time and effort. It's only a solution if you believe there is a problem that needs fixing.

For me it's well worth it for music. Video not so much, not yet anyway. I listen to the same songs 100s of times, but videos only once or maybe twice at most.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only problem with something like Revanced is that it can go away at literally any time. It could be shut down tomorrow and you'd lose access to everything it provides. That's fine, or at least tolerable, if you ALSO have something self-hosted you can rely on in case that happens. If you don't have downloaded music self-hosted, then you're totally relying on Revanced permanently and you lose everything if it goes away. Maybe for something like music that's an acceptable risk, but you have to consider it and decide where it is an acceptable risk. What are you going to do if those services you're relying on go away?

Self-hosting, like you said, is about the independence, and the knowledge that once it's up and running on your own hardware, it won't just go away on its own, and it can't just get "shut down" unless you choose to. You might not need that for every service you rely on, but there are probably at least some you would struggle without, and those are things you should consider self-hosting. The more you think about it, and the more comfortable you get with it, the more likely you'll decide other things are important enough to self-host after all.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Either way, just remember to support artists when you can. Bandcamp Friday is one of the best ways I know of to fund artists in exchange for FLACs that you can legally listen to however you want to.

But I was a broke student in the heydays of torrenting, so I'm not judging using any means necessary to listen to music.

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