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Was recovering an old virtual machine onto a new box and was shocked to see 9,999, I presume thats an upper limit in the UI. Dune (2021) for those curious

Now wheres my crossbones flag?

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[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 127 points 8 months ago

Sir, are you the Pirate Bay? I feel like you're single-handedly keeping a tracker alive.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 69 points 8 months ago

I think you're doing my part too

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] myster0n@feddit.nl 16 points 8 months ago
[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

this must be something I'm too usenet to understand

kidding of course, well done and thank you for your service

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Actually if you would be so kind, what is the rundown of Usenet? I've searched a bit but been busy to really sit down on it, should I consider it being just a side thing (for now)?

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 38 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Usenet is here to stay, it is similar as if you pay for vip in order to be able to leech without seeding. This makes automated pirating legal in some countries (like mine) since only doing direct downloads from your usenet provider. The usenet provider have servers which exchange bits of data with IDs similar like we do with torrenting. As a user, you now go to a indexer, who gives you a map, with which bits of data you can construct your file. So you then download each bit directly and put everything together and are rewarded with a normal file. Until now I have found every release which is also in predb using the private indexers I have.

[–] BackwardMonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I signed up for usenet recently but couldn't really find anything worthwhile. How do you find good stuff?

[–] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Beside a Usenet provider, you also need to sign up with an "indexer".

To compare a Usenet download with a download on the regular internet:

  • Usenet = your internet provider (which enables you to connect to stuff)
  • Indexer = search engine (helps you find the stuff)

NZBGeek is a good indexer.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you very much, until I start getting thin on content from public trackers I think I'll stick to torrents, especially if the bar of entry is lower, I'm in a good situation to seed so I might as well bring that to others

I am curious over the legality, is it in a way that the provider is storing the whole file just obfuscated? My (rather poor) understanding is that torrents work because the file pieces are distributed

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In some countries, like Switzerland for example, it is legal to download, but illegal to upload content that is copyright protected. So if you want pirate legally, you ether only leech public torrents, buy vip leech pass on private tracker or simply turn to usenet.

I think it is that way, so that a consumer getting something from someone (free or paid) can not get in trouble for accepting, since how should the consumer know it is a pirated copy (I think the law was written prior digital age). But the one offering can get in trouble, since that person is more likely to know that it is a pirated copy. There is even an exception, which allows you to share your pirated copy with close friends. You can not even get in trouble if you rent stuff, copy it and give the original back after.

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[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Fight club rules. Yeah, I'm old school

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Its pay to pirate.

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 49 points 8 months ago

There's honor amoung thieves and you have most of it.

[–] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 36 points 8 months ago

Nice!

My highest isn't nearly that large - Dark souls remastered at 1143 ratio.

Kudos ☠️☠️☠️

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 26 points 8 months ago (13 children)

I can't get over 0.00 most of the time because no one's leeching 😭

Idk how I'm even supposed to get a good ratio

[–] zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev 27 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Download a popular movie and keep your computer on for a while 🤷‍♂️

Although, seeding stuff that isn't popular is also important. I don't know what you're seeding but if no one is leeching maybe there aren't a whole lot of other people seeding either. When someone does leech, they might be very happy that you're there keeping that one torrent alive.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 8 months ago

Same, but it's because I am not connectable (CG-NAT).

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

But when they do leach you'll be thanked.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

I have one tracker I am twice as long active with versus another one and I almst catched up the uploaded data with less torrents active. Sometimes I wonder if I am just not the primary target for that tracker or I just don't like the popular stuff.

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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 23 points 8 months ago

It's over nine thousand!

[–] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Must be from a public tracker

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yessir, and frankly I'm caring a lot more for the torrents that are barely breathing on public trackers, its made me a little sad seeing how inaccessible some content can tend to get, but to be fair I haven't sailed the deep end with private trackers or anything yet

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When I was able to seed relentlessly, I aimed for 3.0. Typically, popular things got into the tens or twenties, while rare stuff would get lucky to cross the 1.0 threshold.

Thieves and beggars, never shall we die and all that.

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

When I downloaded The Last Of Us it would shoot to 4-5 and get stuck there. Meanwhile, I downloaded Madagascar on a random Monday and a week or so later that thing is at 36.0.

It's totally random.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What's your upload amount? Ratio isn't vs the total size of the torrent, so this can happen if you remove a readd a torrent to the client for a file that's already in the hard drive. Say you download 1kb of a 1gb file, but then upload 10mb you can get some insane ratios.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Most unfortunately overall statistics aren't exported, the VM had been sitting active on a PC for a while before I turned it off for a few months and wiped it recently

I can say those top ratios were movies I had first acquired, and never had set a seed limit so I'm certain I've been seeding the entire file

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 points 8 months ago

I2P would love to have you

[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you store all that in the Homework folder?

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ahem thats a Proxmox powered homework folder to you

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 8 months ago

It's the bare minimum if you care about your homework and Linux ISOs

[–] Sabakodgo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago

Insane, my highest is around 100 ratio.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's almost certainly a partial cross seed, but if it isn't, that's one hell of an accomplishment.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Yo ho ho and two bottles of rum for you 🏴‍☠️

[–] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Thank you ❤️

[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

please excuse my stupidity but what does this mean? i know it's something with torrenting but i don't know what exactly

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They have really high seeding ratios.

0.5 would mean they uploaded half the filesize. 1 means whole filesize. 2 means twice. You get the idea.

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