Tbh the statistics are pretty great for nuclear.
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Why would anyone care to have a power plant near them? The last one in the US that failed was almost 50 years ago. I'm not saying there can't be accidents, but they're pretty safe. You're like 1,000,000x more likely to die on your commute to work.
With a nuclear plant, there’s a teeny teeny tiny chance I’ll get Hulk powers.
With AI, I’ll probably just lose my job and destroy the planet.
Yeah, sure but will an AI you can boil off a lake to generate pictures of me as a hulk, me as a hulk wearing no shirt, me as a hulk wearing ripped pants and I have something in my pants, can you generate nudity, can you generate pictures of naked if it's non sexual, pictures of me as a hulk getting changed and I just took off my pants to put on other pants non sexual, generate a picture of an eggplant, make the eggplant green, make the tip of the eggplant a darker shade, take the eggplant from @image2 and place it over the crotch of @image1, animate this image, do it again, do it again, starrjummps, do it again, delete my account.
AI data centres were a part of a plan of the government all along to build more nuclear plants /j
gotta be careful here because they'll take that as consent for both. "GEE IF THE POWER IS ALREADY THERE...."
Generation IV power plants can be designed so that they are physically incapable of going into meltdown. And the technology is getting better and better at reusing the waste.
So, of course, one would prefer a nuclear power plant.
If anything, we really need to update old power plants and replace all other non-renewable plants with cleaner power, renewable or not.
Promises, promises. I haven't heard of one that's actually in commercial operation right now.
But, apples and oranges... it's a bullshit choice. Power plants generate power, DC's consume power.
If you going to generate power, why look beyond solar/wind and batteries? At a much lower price, and much faster build times, they too are 'physically incapable of going into meltdown', and are already in use worldwide, no wait time.
As far as DC's go, they depend on very new technology (enjoying a trendy fad) which -will- get far less power-hungry than they are. Or else. (The grid's not ready for them.)
The only people in a rush seem to be the people who invested in all the snake oil promises that LLM's are real A.I. ... which they aren't.
Bruh I think most of the people answering this are imagining 3-Mile Island...
That's why they're saying modern plants aren't like that.
I like things that don't vibrate in such a way that it makes me want to vomit and die, true.
Why not both? \s
Actually what is going to happen lol
Are you nuts? And miss all the heat that data center will provide you yearly? Imagine in summer having heat from the data center!
You need to stop asking for nuclear power plants, data center is the feature, and you have to accept it! Period.
Pretty sure the nuclear plant will provide significantly more heat. I mean, those giant cooling towers are specifically designed to unload heat into the atmosphere.
Yeah! If there's ONE thing lame-ass nuclear plants and their spicy rocks suck at, it's making heat!
You joke (I think) but community heating schemes off these places would be a good byproduct. Not enough to make them worthwhile, but it would offset their impact.
Do they even make enough heat for that to be viable option? Most computer systems can handle a pretty low temperature before they start having problems because they're over-heating.
It's not going to be steam pipes, but warm water. Maybe 60°C but lots of it. Warm enough for underfloor heating to be sure.
Biggest problem in my head is that you'd need to design buildings to take advantage of it, and I doubt data centres would be permanent enough to warrant the commitment.
IIRC that's being done in some places because it takes care of two issues at once. But certainly not the majority of data centers.
On a scale several orders of magnitude smaller, it's also how car heating systems work. Waste engine heat is transferred to the heater core and then air is blown through it. Engine gets cooled, cabin gets heated.
Since data centers will be run by nuclear power on-site in the future they will soon have both...
Why build a nuclear power plant with your data center if you could just get power from the grid and drive up everyone else's price too? It's cheaper for the data center operator.
Well nuclear power plants create something more useful than ai data centers, nuclear waste.
Nuclear waste can be reprocessed and reused. France has been doing it for decades. Or you could reuse it in a thorium reactor, which needs less reprocessing.
Another thing people forget about is that nuclear power is the main source for tritium, which we have a shortage of and it's getting worse as more nuclear plants are decommissioned. Tritium has a lot of uses, but it's most noteworthy use is fuel for fusion power. If decommission all nuclear plants, fusion research is effectively dead in the water
Well yeah. Nuclear power plant somehow manage to consume less water
I want to say "no shit" but then I remembered that most people have no idea how safe nuclear reactors actually are
Well no shit. One of those things is actually useful.