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[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)

So add a phone number, what's the big deal?

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 5 minutes ago

Nope. I'm not giving Google my phone

[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you Google for TURNING INTO FUCKING APPLE RIGHT AFTER I SWITCH TO A FUCKING PIXEL

[–] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

GrapheneOS is built for Google devices. Doesn't really solve the email problem though.

[–] ScriptSage@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Lmao I'm in the same boat

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Remember the 1GB Gmail reaction? I remember:

Damn, this image can now drink alcohol in the US.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

5GB is plenty for emails, won't be an issue for 99% of people.

THE problem with google's storage is that they actively mislead consumers:

  1. They bother customers during setup and after with: "Do you want to backup your device?" To which a considerable amount of people react to as "Yeah ofcourse I want that!"
  2. Google does not show any indication where this backup goes or about the eventual payment so people just forget about it.
  3. After some time their gmail and photos app will start to complain: "YOUR STORAGE IS FULL" - with constant notifications. And their Gmail stops working so they can't receive emails anymore.
  4. These regular people confuse 'storage' with internal storage so they start looking for ways to expand their internal storage, which obviously doesn't do anything.
  5. Eventually they give up and either pay google the ransom or make a new email.

This is the real dark pattern behind their "free cloud"

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

It is interesting. I've deleted almost all my emails from my Gmail account and it just won't go bellow 50% full. There is no way to see what is taking up the space.

My mother on the other hand has 3000+ emails and it's at like 15% full. They absolutely do this on purpose.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 minutes ago

Are you sure you're not using anything else google related that might clog it up? That's what I'm getting at. Check google one for a breakdown.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

It is honestly. My Gmail is 16 years old and I’ve only used a third of a gig.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 minutes ago

and if you need more you're probably using a dedicated mail client anyway

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 49 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I sincerely and earnestly want Google to fail and cease to exist.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Except for YouTube. Spin that off first.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago

Can you please hope I never win the lottery?

seems that Google is testing offering only 5GB [for new accounts] free storage unless you add a phone number to your account.

iCloud accounts are 5GB if you a phone number. You don't get to create an account if you don't add a number.

I'm not defending this move. It's on the same level as them yanking their free lifetime unlimited storage on ONE accounts. But I also get it.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

"improve security"

isn't basically common knowledge at this point phone recovery methods decrease security? How do companies keep getting away with this.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 84 points 10 hours ago (4 children)
  • Google is reportedly testing a 5GB storage limit for new Gmail accounts, down from the standard 15GB.
  • Users can “unlock” the full 15GB of free storage by adding a phone number to their account.

Seems they’re trying to get phone numbers this way. Maybe it’s for increased user data, maybe it’s to prevent fraudulent activity, maybe it’s to have more information to give authorities.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 hours ago

To be generous, this could just be anti-botting. It sucks that bots suck up so many resources, and make things that could be free not free just to try to stop them. When you can have bots create thousands of accounts trivially, it makes sense that they need to provide some kind of identifier.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

How are you creating google account without phone number

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

I haven’t made one in years. When I made my account it was back when you needed an invitation.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 hours ago

Exactly. I’ve been down this path, countless times, you can’t. I ended up using mailsac.com for temp emails instead.

This sounds like Google is offering 5free gigabytes to temporary accounts, something that couldn’t be done before.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 44 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

phone numbers were already an almost mandatory addition to new Google accounts. You need to set up 2FA when you make a new account, and the option to use an authenticator app is so well hidden... meanwhile Google still wants your phone number "to authenticate you", even though it's less secure than storing your password on a post it on your phone.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 44 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

I work with homeless people and I discovered you can no longer make email without a cell phone with any major provider. I can't get them into their social security without an email.

I was able to find an email provider that didn't require a cell phone, but then you had to use a cell phone to get past the verification on the social security site. You are absolutely fucked without a cell phone now.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can try mail.com or gmx.com. They didn't require a phone when I signed up.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago
[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Thats really twisted. They really want to make not owning a cell spy a crime. Every time I learn something new about Surveillance it makes me more anarchist.

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[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I tried to make a second account recently, and it wanted me to scan a qr code with my phone that then wanted to send me a text message. At the same time they were saying "this won't associate your phone with the account." I don't believe that.

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[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I purged all my email from google a while ago due to increasing privacy concerns.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah but problem is, android forces you to have A Google account.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 197 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Anyone else remember when Google bragged about never being worried about storage as you watched your storage free count, grow and grow and grow.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 20 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

TBF when Iade an account there to check it out back then, they offered about 1GB. But that was huge for the time back then

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 9 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I remember when they offered 1GB, was at a time when I think the standard hotmail was like either 10 MB or 100 MB, and they made the announcement on april 1st.

Then did it via an invite system.

You know now that I think of it, I wonder what would have happened if google plus had used a similar playbook to that. Seems like with gmail google knew the "exclusivity" was a selling point. Facebook grew big via similar strategies (only these special college students can get it, ok a few more colleges can), meanwhile google plus was "HEY, USE GOOGLE PLUS NOW, Oh you aren't using it yet, we made your youtube account a google plus account now, so now you have an account please use it now!

While social media in general is toxic. I do feel design wise google plus was leaps and bounds ahead of facebook at the time. Circles is IMO the feature that would have made social media actually semi-useful. (IE post your video game content to gamer friends, fun activities to friends, and not putting any job risking content to bosses etc...).

[–] elvith@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Google Plus was invite only in the beginning, though

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

I think so, I don't remember how long that was. But I do distinctly remember the era where it was shoved down everyone's throat, which I have to say stuck with people far more. Telling people that they must use it, generated so much hatred for it it was insane.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

They tried that with Google Wave.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago

I don't think marketing was wave's problem... nobody understood what the hell wave was. I used it for a few months.. and I can't tell you what the hell it was.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 hours ago

And that was the end of the wave for invite started social media.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, the whole 'you now have a mandatory account' made for a mad scramble of how to disable every possible scrap of data sent to them. It may have been some small push into the self hosting game too.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 7 points 7 hours ago

I remember. I'm also paying Google $2 a month for 100gb. Fucking bastards. But can you point me to 100GB for less?

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[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 82 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Update: May 15, 2026 (2:57 AM ET): Google has now confirmed this test in a statement to us while giving more details regarding the feature

Next up: too many people are exporting their data at once, so now exporting your data costs extra.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 59 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that'd be illegal under GDPR.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Only if enforced.

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