Now when are we getting: As-Office, Aus-Office, Afri-Office, NAmeri-Office, SAmeri-Office and Ant-Office?
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https://www.techzine.eu/news/infrastructure/140634/dutch-central-bank-chooses-lidl-for-european-cloud/
https://www.techzine.eu/news/infrastructure/141644/kpn-launches-sovereign-cloud-with-stackit-in-the-netherlands/
One of the biggest telecom provider of the Netherlands KPN has started to work with German company Schwarzdigits to create a fully European Cloud as well and they'll release it today!! Looooooooooooooooooooooooove these initiatives !!!! Letsgo Europe 😍 🇪🇺
Despite the name, OnlyOffice has no connection with LibreOffice's ancestor, the Apache Foundation's OnlyOffice
It pisses me off when tech journalists don't bother to double check with a simple web search. Don't even need to actually search, just type in the search bar "apache foundation o" and it autocompletes in "apache foundation OpenOffice"
It could be worse:
Apache Foundation's OnlyFans
why reinvent the wheel when we have LibreOffice already
OnlyOffice is a much more polished and mature suite than LibreOffice.
Is it really, or is it just a matter of interface?
It is actually better in rendering Microsoft office files with weird layouts
Also it integrates wonderfully in nextcloud, it's like Google docs (auto save, history, collaborative editing)
I see. Their focus does seem to be on microsoft compatibility, although pushing odf would be more sensible in Europe.
I'm disappointed it's not "Euroffice".
That only works in English. It's easier not to try and get clever with naming schemes when it needs to cover 12 different languages including one language that's written right to left.
Also from an administration standpoint it's a pain in the arse having a program with a clever name that you have to explain every time somebody tries to search for it in the company portal, and then can't find it. I already have this issue with some software on our domain called Omny instead of Omni.
Beuro works as a pun for English, French and German
Orafice. EuroOffice. Eurafice!
You're a fish, Harry
Oracle?
If governments across the world gave a quarter of what they give to Microsoft to open source projects that compete, not only would they get to stop paying Microsoft all that money, they'd have a better product to boot. Add to that the side benefit to people and companies using it, and it's pretty obvious why Microsoft will do everything in its power (except make a better product for a better price) to prevent that.
I can't wait for all the Office EU <--> MS365 tools Microsoft make that always make the Office EU software look bad on purpose
"Office EU is a complete cloud-based office suite (like Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace) that is 100% European-owned and runs entirely on European infrastructure."
its datafarming
Well hold on now. Could it be self hosted?
I use google docs when i want a simple document that is accessible and thats useful. I use open office or local programs when i want to drill into the details.
Can you elaborate?
“Cloud-based” is the issue they’re complaining about. I mean we’re talking about an office suite. Those have been able to run on a potato since the 1980’s. Why the heck does that need to be hosted by a supercomputer that somebody else owns and operates?
Collaborative editing and the like isn't really easy to solve with other methods. Maybe a P2P approach could be viable.
P2P wouldn't scale very well, though. It would be really complicated once you have more than a small handful of people.
From what I remember, Lemmy had/has a similar problem, where the whole thing would start bogging down past a point, because all the connected instances would need to update each other, instead of a main hub they could query like more centralised networks would.
It can be self hosted, so the cloud can be a computer that you own.
Most businesses will be able to set this up on their own as well. This isn't really aimed at the public it's more a business to business viewpoint.
Having degoogled this year, I deeply miss Google sheets and the ability to (a) summon it on any device and (b) share it with shy real-time participants.
I am trying out cryptpad which feels both flabby in terms of complexity and ui, but also in terms of delays and nuisances in processing and learning curve. Like if I were dumped into 'Corel quattro' or 'Lotus 123' for the first time, now.
But I don't want them being able to slurp up my data and then hand it over to an adversarial government, so I am very interested in continuing to shift to European service providers for email, password management, and office documents.
The criticism in the thread isn't about the vendor in specific, but the technology in general? Because I need persuasion (not that it's your job, I just know we are all fumbling towards hopefully "better")

Spotted a typo, it refers to "Apache Foundation's OnlyOffice," when that product is OpenOffice (as one can discover by following the link). This is different from the OnlyOffice mentioned earlier in the paragraph.
Isn't OpenOffice deprecated? Or am I mistaken?
LibreOffice is the fork that’s truly community driven. OpenOffice is open source but controlled by big tech.
It still exists and gets regular updates, but has been half-dead for 20 years.
I wish OnlyOffice was a little more well-known and community-developed - it's way better at what it does
OnlyOffice recently got famous for not understanding FOSS.
if only there was a good, actively developed and highly regarded free and open source alternative whose name would be something like "LibreOffice"...
LibreOffice feels like a java app with 40 years of baggage and tech debt going back to Sun Microsystems
It feels like when I was trying to use GIMP. In theory there might be a good product in there somewhere, but it's not worth it to wade through the terrible UX decisions in order to find out.
Afaik there's a port that makes the ui more like Photoshop, I forget the name, maybe another lemming can fill it in.
There were several attempts for that. The most recent one is PhotoGIMP, which is actually a patch and not a port. Before that, there used to be Gimpshop, but the dude behind it got fucked over by someone who bought a dotcom domain with that name and served ad and spyware. Though, ever since the major gui rework several years ago, i don't see much of a point. It is a different software, no matter how much you try to cover it up, the functionality and workflow will always be different. And most other commercial software don't constantly try to copy some other software either.
I like and use Libreoffice, but its a local application. This makes it fine for working by yourself and on your own hardware. Google Docs (Gstuite) is an online application with the best collaboration integration I've seen and works on nearly any device you can open a modern browser on. Yes, both products have a word processor and a spreadsheet, but they don't serve all the same use cases.
If this new Euro-office can replicate the Gsuite offerings (that Libreoffice lacks), then Euro-office could be a great addition to the open source community.
An office suite for collaborating ? Great idea ! I brt they would call it something like "Collabora Office" !
It takes more than a name to deliver the result. MS Office365 also claims to be great for collaboration, and its a trainwreck to try to use it in that way.