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[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 25 minutes ago

“There was a problem loading the page…”

Yeah; I won’t allow your shitty advertising. That’s the real provlem.

http://archive.is/Skm0u

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 6 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago) (1 children)

Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

How about we let the users decide if they want to keep the default or not? These fucking companies are always using the privacy and security cqrd to push their walls and get full control of the devices we buy. And, of course, fucking media companies just serve as speakers for them.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 2 points 42 minutes ago

Right? The framing on this is diabolical - like I trust big American tech companies with that kind of access anymore than anyone else? I don’t want any of them giving an LLM access to my info.

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 6 points 2 hours ago

Never mind the privacy implications. Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant?

I don't see the point here. Assistants are inherently untrustworthy. They are unreliable, and can be taken over vy hostile actors. Or, from Apples perspective, by the user.
You can't let users jailbreak their phones using siri prompt injection, and you can't let siri perform any system actions or exfiltrate data without confirmations because it could go rogue or be taken over by some prompt smuggled into it by a hostile actor.
If you have to safeguard it anyway, and it is untrustworthx anyway, you already have to make it withstand everything an untrustworthy 3rd party implementation could do.

[–] ravelin@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 hours ago

Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

What is AI if not a rogue actor? Seems to me like Europe not getting Siri AI is Apple threatening them with a good time.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

I kinda get Apple’s point though. They designed the AI cloud to be super private. Letting customers use other models invites abuse of their data. You know there are advertisers and sketchy data brokers lining up to have all your contacts, calendar, to dos, notes, photos, and other personal information sent to their servers and the media will sharpen their knives to blame Apple when abuse occurs, even if they did it to appease the EU.

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 1 points 7 minutes ago

User that grant access to their private data to third party would blame Apple? Why? I blame Apple because they think they are better at deciding what to do with my data than me. Why is Apple AI more trustworthy with my data then Mistral AI? This is just anti-consumer monopoly enforcement disguised as care for the users. They do not care about the users, they care about controlling their ecosystem.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

"AI cloud" and "super private" in the same sentence? 🤣🤣🤣

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip -2 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Did you learn about their architecture or are you just talking about things you don’t understand?

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 29 minutes ago

They designed the AI cloud to be super private.

HA! This is gold, I can not think of two words put together that implies less privacy. Well maybe "fucking stage".

[–] elvith@feddit.org 32 points 9 hours ago

Never mind the privacy implications. Could you imagine if a ~~rogue actor~~ US tech giant like Apple or Google got into the system-level of your phone, ~~disguised as an AI assistant~~? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

Wait...

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 79 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The last paragraph feel more like the authors opinion, which is a bit weird on an Android website.

I agree with the EU on this one though, I hate walled gardens and the EU is doing good work.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/eu-says-decision-not-to-launch-siri-ai-in-europe-is-apples/

There you go. I saw it on MacRumors yesterday. It's weird to see Apple stuff on an Android site, but Android Police used to review iPhones when they came out. They'd give them an honest try. Reviews even varied from "decent phone but I loved going back to Android" to "I could use this and be happy but I still prefer Android." I think they gave them a fair shake.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 44 minutes ago

blaming regulators for ~~refusing to engage constructively on proposed solutions~~ wanting them to follow the law when they don't want to.

There, I fixed it.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The comments on that post are crazy delusional. How do you end up so far in a corporations pocket?

[–] baguette@piefed.social 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

And they all go quite when Apple politely obliges to whatever China demands from them. That site is the definition of toxic-fanboyism. So many commenters their blindly believe every declaration Apple makes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago

There's one comment in there lamenting the lack of innovation from the EU. You know the continent that contains CERN. Yep ain't no innovation going on over here, it's amazing we even got internal plumbing.

But then again Americans aren't the smartest tools in the shed.

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

What does China do?
China smartphone companies just install their own ai providers I suspect.

Edit. Oh .

Apple unveiled a dramatically improved Siri at WWDC 2026, but quietly confirmed that EU and China users won’t be getting it with iOS 27.

Lmao. Apple Loosers. Fucking incompetent cunts.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Here is Apple’s statement. They designed an API called “Trusted System Agent “ but the EU rejected it.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-delayed-in-eu-for-ios-27-and-ipados-27/

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 1 points 1 minute ago

This statement tells more about Apple than about EU. What DMA says is that third party API access must be on the same level as first party API access.

Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications

This simply means that Siri AI has direct access to users private data and the ability to directly control other installed applications.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

Well, they at least rejected letting Apple release without "Trusted System Agent" and a pinky promise it would be implemented in a year and a half...

[–] emmy5482@quokk.au 4 points 9 hours ago

"Designed" but did not implement. Pretty much says everything you'd need to know.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Apple? The company who fucked with their users/customers phone batteries from afar so they would have to purchase new products? That Apple?

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That’s not actually what happened. It’s kind of the opposite actually.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

No it's not. Apple failed to take battery degradation into account when designing their product, then tried to hide it surreptitiously while gaslighting their users.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I'm constantly being told by Apple fanboys that Apple is the only pro consumer silicon valley company in operation.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 40 minutes ago

Imagine the rest. DAMN! 😳

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Whether Apple fan boy or a Maga representative, they both have an agenda that is a bit far from the truth.

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 4 points 12 hours ago

Tim Apple gonna Tim Apple /s

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