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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 57 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Stand to reason, the operating costs of a coal fired power station are immense compared to a renewable energy source. They can’t compete. That’s the major reason that industry doesn’t want to build them.

[–] TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Here in Michigan Trump is using "emergency" orders to keep a coal plant running that the electric company was going to retire over a year ago. The order can only last 90 days but they've just renewed it every time.

Thanks to this bullshit, rates are going up because it's costing so much to keep the thing going we're losing money on it. Consumers Energy doesn't even want to be operating it, they're trying to get it shut down but hur dur coal good can't allow that. And it's not the only one affected by this crap.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/climate/trump-aging-coal-plants-electricity-bills

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 99 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

bUt WhAtAbOuT wHeN iT's nIghTime u sTUpId LIbS!?!?!

-MF's who have never heard of a battery

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

they're also getting the benefits of solar, despite voting for the moron nixing renewables while peddling coal and oil.

States won by President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election accounted for 74% of all solar capacity installed in the first quarter

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 18 points 6 days ago

Part of that is because of how fucking empty the middle fly over states are.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

Or simply run dirty energy as a last resort. You don’t need to, and shouldn’t be, dependent on a single energy source.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 days ago (7 children)

"Pffft ... batteries are for toys ... my delusions tell me the following pictures are fake because I say so and I don't need to prove anything because jesus tells me petroholics like me are always right:"

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Obviously fake, everybody knows that batteries are ruined by rain. Just like magnets.

Next you're gonna tell me that the Moon can come out during the day!

[–] bskm@feddit.nu 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Heard a fantastic quote this morning for people with similar believes:

This are the same people who ask ChatGPT what time it is

Beautiful !

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 days ago

I've unironically met people who use ChatGPT for everything. (and who unironically now think magnets are turned off by water since the president said it)

Like I literally had coffee with someone who while we were chatting they mentioned that they "asked ChatGPT if the place was queer friendly" before they agreed to go out for coffee.

It's like bro, did the pride flags year round not tip you off? The maps link literally has pictures of the place with snow on the ground and pride flags in the windows!

So many people have forgotten how to think and it's infuriating. They'll believe a chatbot before their own eyes.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 6 points 5 days ago

Just give the solar panels legs so they can walk around the earth following the sun.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

They've heard plenty about battery, it's on their arrest records

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[–] RandomStranger@piefed.social 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

but experts say coal emits carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, and several other pollutant
What the hell is this crap reporting. It's not like this is a contested fact or an opinion.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago (13 children)

"Experts say power plants 'burn coal to convert water into steam.'"

I mean, does anyone really know how these things operate?

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The tide comes in. The tide goes out.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But what about "clean coal"? Checkmate, Atheists!

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 34 points 5 days ago (4 children)
[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago (35 children)

Tell me you didn't watch the video(s) without telling me you didn't watch the video.

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[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All to be eaten by glutton data centers. Ugh.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Or torn up by braianwashed regressives.

[–] Snowwdropp@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Great, but that doesn't mean less coal is being burned. The article says the share of coal in the total power of the US has been halved over the last five years but again, how much less coal has been burned? That's the important part.

Only speaking in parts tends to miss this:

On a global scale, energy sources cumulate, they don't replace each other.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You're right, there isn't enough replacing going on. Fossil production must be reduced.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Surprised the Pedo-in-Chief doesn't immediately halt this so he can get more money from the coal lobbyists

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 25 points 6 days ago

He's been trying! Courts keep overturning it but it's been on and off for both wind and solar construction

https://www.enr.com/articles/62447-us-judge-revokes-trump-work-shutdown-order-on-fifth-offshore-wind-project

[–] Cleisthenes72@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The MAGA response "No it didn't! No it didn't! Fox and The Anointed One didn't say so! Fake news! Fake news!"

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Coal is black and dusty, solar panels are black and clean, it's clean coal as promised!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is actually a pretty major indictment on the US. Coal is one of the worst most inefficient fuel sources for power generation, virtually every other fuel source is an improvement including incineration of food waste.

A good test of how efficient fuel is is to see how much of it you still have left after you've theoretically burnt all of it. The fact that coal smoke is black is a pretty good indication of how bad it is. You're throwing away a good chunk of your fuel.

[–] Nurgus@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I love the trivia that there's traces of uranium in coal which go up with the smoke - coal is worse than nuclear in terms of radiological pollution.

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

When looking if it was feasible to convert coal power plants to nuclear, we found out that most of the coal sites have more radioactivity than is allowed for a future nuclear site

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Solar is more efficient. The corporations will move over to the most efficient power source regardless of what the administration may or may not want. Continuing to use coal just to appease Trump is stupid.

Anyway they can just lie and say that they are using coal for everything, it's not like anyone is going to check

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[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 7 points 5 days ago

Don’t let drumpf know, he’ll find a way to have it reversed. Remywhen he used usa taxpayer funds (a billion or so usd) to cancel a windfarm?

[–] CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

I genuinely couldn’t believe it. Wow.

[–] isekaihero@ani.social 4 points 4 days ago

And all it took was shutting down 300 coal plants over the last 10 years.

[–] Neural_drift@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago

Progress be progress. We’ll get there folks.

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