this post was submitted on 22 Mar 2024
271 points (96.6% liked)

Technology

59589 readers
2946 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

You’ve gone home with a Tinder date, and things are escalating. You don’t really know or trust this guy, and you don’t want to contract an STI, so… what now?

A company called Calmara wants you to snap a photo of the guy’s penis, then use its AI to tell you if your partner is “clear” or not.

Let’s get something out of the way right off the bat: You should not take a picture of anyone’s genitals and scan it with an AI tool to decide whether or not you should have sex.

top 40 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 96 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure that gonorrhea, chlamydia, and HIV don't generally have visible symptoms. Just use a condom.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

What part of AI don't you understand?

If you can't trust AI medical startups operating out of Silicon Valley with pictures of your genitals, well...THEN WHO CAN YOU TRUST?

I mean, to be fair, it also looks like they might be partially financially backed by a foreign authoritarian regime, and they usually have pretty good AI models....so...

[–] RatBin@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We are reaching the phase where ai is de facto a magic spell to be cast on reality, and ai startup are hyping this up. That and taking pics of stranger's genitals is a dick move.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 months ago

Yes, I agree. AI is magic and everyone should submit pictures of their genitals.

Hell, I've started converting my dick pics into ASCII art and having ChatGPT diagnose me for STI's.

AI BABY WOOOOOO HOOOOO

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm just happy we moved to an AI bubble to raise stock prices instead of continuing to lay off essential personnel to do it

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

AI is not even at the point yet well you can lay off workers and just have the AI do it reliably and safely

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Fair enough. Unzip.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Man, what about false positives? Ruined date night at minimum, possibly ruined reputation, relationships.

Sorry, we put a picture of your junk into this box. We don't know what's in it, or what it does with the picture, but it says you have chlamydia, and I think the box looks trustworthy. Here's your divorce papers.

[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 6 points 8 months ago

If you get the premium ultra plan you will always report as negative on a scan.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Or if still concerned after the fact, a doctor. Despite what your GOP neighbor might tell you, they're not all evil quacks and don't typically take pictures of your stuff either.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Single reason why this is suspicious from the start:

Advertised not to check yourself, but your one-night partner. If it was advertised for self-check it would be bombed with lawsuit for fake medical advices.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Nah, they'd just throw up a disclaimer "Not true medical advice, consult a doctor for actual confirmation" and they'd probably be in the clear

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This definitely won't be misused in any way that would completely destroy the good name of the person taking/in the frame of the image. It's just one "probable cause" search from a bad day.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

what are the chances they build a database to blackmail any individual they want in the future and just say it was leaked

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] nbdjd@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

“Is sandwich.“

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

"Meat popsicle confirmed."

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't trust calamari to identify anything tbh

[–] debounced@kbin.run 15 points 8 months ago

i'm almost certain there's a hentai like this

[–] NoRodent@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's a trap!

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 8 months ago

I'm speechless, ina bad way.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I could care less who sees my junk. I also would not let someone take pictures of it so I can fuck them. I'm galaxies away from being that desperate.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

couldn't care less*

Since I assume you mean you don't care.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[–] jet@hackertalks.com 14 points 8 months ago

Some STIs, in some situations, have a visible presentation that could be detected.

A false positive is a good thing here, a false negative is a bad thing here. There's no way this app will not have huge false negatives.

[–] candywashing@infosec.pub 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Downside is we have unique buttholes, so I assume that extends to other gentials. Fun new privacy attack here

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-scientists-created-smart-toilet-recognizes-your-bum-180974641/

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

An untapped mobile device biometric.

[–] Odo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 1 points 8 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Smart Pipe?

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

Buttplugs to protect your privacy. But only if you are on the toilet for A, not for B.

[–] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Hold on babe AI wants to see a picture of your shillelagh first 🤳

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Maybe they will use the photo to match it with doctor notes and photos medically taken of the same penis or vagina to then illegally match them to illegally obtained health records. Probably not though.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Not a hot dog.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

No more need for Ann Perkins to identify Joe's problem.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago

Obligatory Peep Show

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 7 points 8 months ago

And to think, they stared with an app to identify if something was a hot dog or not.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Finally, using this we'll be able to train AI models so we can know what super-gonaherpes looks like

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“With lab diagnosis, sensitivity and specificity are two key measures that help us understand the test’s propensity for missing infections and for false positives,” Daphne Chen, founder of TBD Health, told TechCrunch.

HeHealth is framed as a first step for assessing sexual health; then, the platform helps users connect with partner clinics in their area to schedule an appointment for an actual, comprehensive screening.

HeHealth’s approach is more reassuring than Calmara’s, but that’s a low bar — and even then, there’s a giant red flag waving: data privacy.

“It’s good to see that they offer an anonymous mode, where you don’t have to link your photos to personally identifiable information,” Valentina Milanova, founder of tampon-based STI screening startup Daye, told TechCrunch.

This sounds reassuring, but in its privacy policy, Calmara writes that it shares user information with “service providers and partners who assist in service operation, including data hosting, analytics, marketing, payment processing, and security.” They also don’t specify whether these AI scans are taking place on your device or in the cloud, and if so, how long that data remains in the cloud, and what it’s used for.

Calmara represents the danger of over-hyped technology: It seems like a publicity stunt for HeHealth to capitalize on excitement around AI, but in its actual implementation, it just gives users a false sense of security about their sexual health.


The original article contains 773 words, the summary contains 228 words. Saved 71%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is it open source and offline? I would only trust that they're not collecting all the photos people take with the app if so.

[–] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago